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I've got the SSA-E set aside for when I finally get my stuff.
Stag 10 must have upgrades or ready built rifle ?
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I've got the SSA-E set aside for when I finally get my stuff.
I've posted my plans a few times but this all started with wanting a wilson combat ultralight hunter in 338 fed , 20" barrel. No one has applied for the frt that I'm aware of so was gonna wait for the bcl 102 reviews and the wait to die down. Then Arms East comes out of the blue with this stag-10 non restricted and I was like "##### ya bud!" in true canadian fashion......
so..... 7mm-08 upper , 19" , no muzzle device, stag bolt probably and other parts to be determined and will used when my wife comes deer hunting.
main upper will be .338 federal, 19" fluted barrel by Bob Jury , no muzzle device, slr rifleworks adjustable gas block, stag bolt for now, stag trigger as it seems fine to me for my needs, diamondhead 15" high handguard. optic undetermined but will be a short range (0-300) etched recticle like a 1x, 1-4 , 2-8 ect. longer eye relief to afford room for flip sites mounted on 45 degree offsets. She will be a hunting rifle. I'm also working on my own ultralight buttstock and handguard that might be lighter and more ergonomic for fielding the rifle as a hunting tool.
Decided to put my own together this go around. I didn't like the 308 barrel options.
I just received my Stag 10 upper/lower along with BCG, buffer, buffer spring and charging handle.
This is a quality product. The upper/lower comes with lower parts kit installed, including an enhanced aluminum trigger guard and hogue grip. I changed out the grip as I prefer the ergo, but the hogue isn't bad. Plus the lower had a nice hex screw for the pistol grip rather than some of the cheap stuff I've seen with other companies. BCG looked very good. I took it apart and oiled it. Everything looks like quality.
I did have an issue though trying to use a PWS enhanced buffer tube. It just didn't sit right in the Stag. I tried two different PWS enhanced buffer tubes and the same problem with both. So I had an older unknown brand buffer tube sitting around and used that. Went on perfectly. Looks great.
If you're planning on putting an AR308 together, these sets will be the easiest way to do it. The upper/lower aren't stripped which makes life a lot easier. The upper has the forward assist and dust cover installed. The lower is almost complete. You need to assemble the rear take down pin which is easy along with your buffer tube etc. Handguard and barrel components are all that's left. Again easiest AR308/AR10 build you will see.
Just waiting for the barrel assembly. Should be here any day.
I just received my Stag 10 upper/lower along with BCG, buffer, buffer spring and charging handle.
This is a quality product. The upper/lower comes with lower parts kit installed, including an enhanced aluminum trigger guard and hogue grip. I changed out the grip as I prefer the ergo, but the hogue isn't bad. Plus the lower had a nice hex screw for the pistol grip rather than some of the cheap stuff I've seen with other companies. BCG looked very good. I took it apart and oiled it. Everything looks like quality.
I did have an issue though trying to use a PWS enhanced buffer tube. It just didn't sit right in the Stag. I tried two different PWS enhanced buffer tubes and the same problem with both. So I had an older unknown brand buffer tube sitting around and used that. Went on perfectly. Looks great.
If you're planning on putting an AR308 together, these sets will be the easiest way to do it. The upper/lower aren't stripped which makes life a lot easier. The upper has the forward assist and dust cover installed. The lower is almost complete. You need to assemble the rear take down pin which is easy along with your buffer tube etc. Handguard and barrel components are all that's left. Again easiest AR308/AR10 build you will see.
Just waiting for the barrel assembly. Should be here any day.
What handguard you got there?Decided to put my own together this go around. I didn't like the 308 barrel options.
I just received my Stag 10 upper/lower along with BCG, buffer, buffer spring and charging handle.
This is a quality product. The upper/lower comes with lower parts kit installed, including an enhanced aluminum trigger guard and hogue grip. I changed out the grip as I prefer the ergo, but the hogue isn't bad. Plus the lower had a nice hex screw for the pistol grip rather than some of the cheap stuff I've seen with other companies. BCG looked very good. I took it apart and oiled it. Everything looks like quality.
I did have an issue though trying to use a PWS enhanced buffer tube. It just didn't sit right in the Stag. I tried two different PWS enhanced buffer tubes and the same problem with both. So I had an older unknown brand buffer tube sitting around and used that. Went on perfectly. Looks great.
If you're planning on putting an AR308 together, these sets will be the easiest way to do it. The upper/lower aren't stripped which makes life a lot easier. The upper has the forward assist and dust cover installed. The lower is almost complete. You need to assemble the rear take down pin which is easy along with your buffer tube etc. Handguard and barrel components are all that's left. Again easiest AR308/AR10 build you will see.
Just waiting for the barrel assembly. Should be here any day.
I found the CH a little on the small side , I got a raptor for my next one.
will that handguard cover the gas block?
I'm in same boat and have everything collected but the barrel.... and I guess i still need a sling and iron sights.
I changed gears on the handguard for now
stag -10 upper/lower
stag LPK
Stag charging handle
stag bolt
stag carbine buffer tube assembly
Superlative Arms adjustable gas block
Lantac nitride gas tube
and I picked up the JP Signature series 15.5" handguard, which fits real nice and is the look/feel i want but seems long .
Guess I'll see how it shapes up once a barrel is fitted.
I'm in same boat and have everything collected but the barrel.... and I guess i still need a sling and iron sights.
I changed gears on the handguard for now
stag -10 upper/lower
stag LPK
Stag charging handle
stag bolt
stag carbine buffer tube assembly
Superlative Arms adjustable gas block
Lantac nitride gas tube
and I picked up the JP Signature series 15.5" handguard, which fits real nice and is the look/feel i want but seems long .
Guess I'll see how it shapes up once a barrel is fitted.
Decided to put my own together this go around. I didn't like the 308 barrel options.
I just received my Stag 10 upper/lower along with BCG, buffer, buffer spring and charging handle.
This is a quality product. The upper/lower comes with lower parts kit installed, including an enhanced aluminum trigger guard and hogue grip. I changed out the grip as I prefer the ergo, but the hogue isn't bad. Plus the lower had a nice hex screw for the pistol grip rather than some of the cheap stuff I've seen with other companies. BCG looked very good. I took it apart and oiled it. Everything looks like quality.
I did have an issue though trying to use a PWS enhanced buffer tube. It just didn't sit right in the Stag. I tried two different PWS enhanced buffer tubes and the same problem with both. So I had an older unknown brand buffer tube sitting around and used that. Went on perfectly. Looks great.
If you're planning on putting an AR308 together, these sets will be the easiest way to do it. The upper/lower aren't stripped which makes life a lot easier. The upper has the forward assist and dust cover installed. The lower is almost complete. You need to assemble the rear take down pin which is easy along with your buffer tube etc. Handguard and barrel components are all that's left. Again easiest AR308/AR10 build you will see.
Just waiting for the barrel assembly. Should be here any day.
That's weird Epoxy, I've got the PWS Enhanced Buffer Tube Mod 2 in my Stag 10, no issues installing it and the JP SCS 308 buffer (I installed with the detent even though it's not necessary). What was the issue with yours?
FWIW I'm still waiting for Stag to get back to me for a fix for my mag falling out issue, getting so antsy to get it finished because all the parts are here.
Nope it won't. I want the handguard up to the back or slightly covering the gas block with the front exposed, the same way it is with my LMT and KAC rifles. I'm just hoping it works out how I want. It's actually 12.5" and not 12" as they advertise. As the rifle length gas port is 12" this should bring the hanguard up to the back of the gas block. I have an adjustable gas block as well (SLR nitride), so I didn't really want it covered. If you want covered you will need a 13.5" or 15" to be sure. I'm sort of two minds with this, the longer ones are in vogue right now. But all my combat proven AR10/AR308 rifles have opted to have the handguard up to the gas block and not covering it. I suspect it's about weight/balance due to the heavier AR308 build.
That will be a nice build. The 15.5 will cover the gas block, but... you will still be able to access it fairly easily to adjust it. The 15.5" is the safe bet. I'm risking it a bit with this one in the hopes that I get what I'm looking for.
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Definitely a Gen 2 PWS enhanced buffer tube.
The PWS enhanced buffer tubes I have are the gen1 with the two QR points on either side. Apparently the gen2 is the one to get if going that route! I had these left over in my parts bin.
The problem I ran into was they seemed to lift strangley. Inside the lower receiver the bottom lip seems to be raised upwards. I could actually push down on the buffer retainer plunger from under neath the buffer tube front lip. This also made the back lower part slightly off externally. It wouldn't snug up to match the lower receiver of the Stag 10. It looked pretty awful. I made sure it was threading correctly. I even tried two of them, with the same result. I've used these on AR15's before with no issue. I did however have an issue when I tried them with a DPMS GII. It matched up well, but the buffer couldn't go back far enough to lock open. It would have caused some major issues. I've used them on two AR15 builds with no issues.
That being said, I think I will be looking into the PWS gen2 later on. I was really hoping the gen 1 would work for the single point QR sling mounts. Sometimes this stuff happens.
This is what the Gen 1 PWS enhanced buffer tube looks like:
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What’s the advantage of an adjustable GB?
I’m doing some more load development this weekend, using 165, 168, and 178 g bullits.
I’ve done this exact same testing in my last Stag 10 and was getting some loose PP and an extraction mark on the brass.m
By loose PP , i mean they were loose when I primed them on the second firing.
My max load was 45.5 g of Varget.
I’m doing some more load development this weekend, using 165, 168, and 178 g bullits.
I’ve done this exact same testing in my last Stag 10 and was getting some loose PP and an extraction mark on the brass.m
By loose PP , i mean they were loose when I primed them on the second firing.
My max load was 45.5 g of Varget.
You can adjust the gas coming back, it save save some wear and tear by giving it enough gas to cycle and not so much that it smashes the BCG to the rear. It can thereby reduce the recoil impulse. If you get a low Mass BCG or Taccom buffers and springs it would be a requirement so you don't destroy your high dollar BCG, and again this can reduce the recoil impulse even more with less reciprocating weight.
Some people don't trust it to perform in all situations though. You can always up the gas if need be but that usually requires an Allen wrench. If things get dirty or you change ammunition you might need more gas to cycle properly. Most ARs are over gassed for reliability. The idea with the adjustable gas block is that you give it just a touch more has than is required to hold the bolt open on an empty magazine.
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I think the adjustable gas block is mainly intended for those using the enhanced and lightened BCG's..... from what i gather anyways.
And possibly for those guys with .308 barrels with carbine length gas systems. I think i read that the adjustable gas block helps those cycle reliably.
I'm not expert on these things, still learning myself but from what i gather, the adjustable shouldn't be needed on .308.
I got the superlative arms adjustable because I'll be running a non standard caliber (.338fed)and everything i have read so far tells me i need the adjustable unit so I can tune the gas profile.
Others here must be able to shed some light on the adjustable gas block thing.
And possibly for those guys with .308 barrels with carbine length gas systems. I think i read that the adjustable gas block helps those cycle reliably.
I'm not expert on these things, still learning myself but from what i gather, the adjustable shouldn't be needed on .308.
I got the superlative arms adjustable because I'll be running a non standard caliber (.338fed)and everything i have read so far tells me i need the adjustable unit so I can tune the gas profile.
Others here must be able to shed some light on the adjustable gas block thing.
I don't think an adjustable gas block would be required for 308 as that's basically what it was designed for. Should run any factory ammo and handloads provided they aren't overly light handloads.
The bullet weights you already listed are good for 1 in 10, really you could shoot anything upwards of 208 but you can always check the Berger twist rate calculator to be sure. Most guys like that 165-175 range for 308. I have had great results with 168 grain Hornady AMAX, HPBT and Berger Hybrids in my 1 in 10 twist Savage 10. But I also had good results with AMAX 155s and 208s. I don't have any experience handloading for the AR 10 platform yet but everything I tried in 308 in My POF P308 ran flawlessly and accurately. I am just waiting on IBI to send me a fresh new 308 barrel to start handloading. I'll be running an adjustable block though as I'm using Taccom lightweight buffer and spring and will upgrade to a low mass BCG later (got the brownells Nitride on sale for now cuz I'm cheap and have a few other guns to spend money on atm). Also my life doesn't really depend on the rifle cycling like someone in the military so I want to reduce the gas for smoother operation and less wear, if that even really matters...
Like I said I have plans for a low mass BCG cuz 18+ oz was pretty noticeable cycling back and forth in my POF.
