Stag 10 with the Magpul ACS Carbine Stock

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Hey guys I'm wondering if you can help me out figure something out what is the buffer system on it? I mean it's a rifle length gas system and it's a carbine buffer?
I kind of like the looks but am not sure of the buffer lol, I have an A2 buttstock on my rifle
 
Ok, so that's how it works haha, I thought you had to have the same length buffer system as the gas system

A lot of people think what you thought.

Also a lot of people think you need to get a new buffer and spring when switching from a carbine length tube to a rifle length tube when all you really have to do is install a cheap delrin spacer in the rear of the rifle length tube to take up the space.

https://www.brownells.com/rifle-parts/receiver-parts/buffer-tube-parts/buffer-tube-hardware/ar-15-m16-fixed-stock-to-carbine-spacer-prod44739.aspx?avs%7cManufacturer_1=ROCK%2bRIVER%2bARMS
 
On a purely technical note, there's two types of receiver extensions (buffer tubes) that seem to be used on .308 pattern rifles. A large variety of factory .308 based rifles like the STAG 10 utilize a standard, carbine length receiver extension - like you see on pretty much all AR15s now. However, when using a true Mil-Spec carbine receiver extension on a .308 based rifle, you have a different overall length that the bolt and carrier assembly need to travel rearward, before bottoming out the buffer and returning into battery under the pressure of the action spring. Because they have a longer overall travel, they require a shortened buffer in order to fit within the same dimensional envelope of the carbine length receiver extension.

A few other manufacturers, most notably Knights Armament and LMT utilize a longer receiver extension - by all means they appear to be identical to a standard carbine receiver extension other than length. (a la AR15 and so on). The longer receiver extension allows the use of off-the-shelf standard AR15 type buffers.

Basically, most manufacturers have chosen to shorten the buffer and use a standard carbine receiver extension, and a few others did the opposite whereby they can use a standard carbine buffer, with a slightly longer receiver extension.
 
So there's 2 size carbine buffer tubes? I can only find the ar 15 shorts haha

There isn't really two official MIL-SPEC 'carbine buffer tubes' the AR15 MIL-SPEC tube that you keep seeing available is the standard. The others, that come from Knights Armament and LMT are longer versions - but not considered a standard by any means - at least not relative to what is known as an AR15 carbine buffer tube.

As for the post above... it doesn't complicate anything. You just need to make sure that you buy a .308 'short' buffer if you're going to use a standard AR15 receiver extension.
 
Thanks all, I think I got it now, tho I don't understand why if you have a rifle you don't use a rifle butt stock I know it's personal preference but I'm still a little confused haha, it's just me tho
 
Thanks all, I think I got it now, tho I don't understand why if you have a rifle you don't use a rifle butt stock I know it's personal preference but I'm still a little confused haha, it's just me tho

I think you're confusing the term 'rifle' and a 'rifle stock' (in terms of the AR15/AR10 terminology). Lots of people use either stocks on their AR pattern rifles... whether its a STAG 10 or an AR15. Most people use adjustable stocks simply because a fixed A2 stock isn't comfortable for everyone.
 
I think you're confusing the term 'rifle' and a 'rifle stock' (in terms of the AR15/AR10 terminology). Lots of people use either stocks on their AR pattern rifles... whether its a STAG 10 or an AR15. Most people use adjustable stocks simply because a fixed A2 stock isn't comfortable for everyone.

Yah I believe so aswell, I had an adjustable stock on one rifle and it never stayed locked, I fixed it and I got jack hammered in my shoulder, it hurt like hell, but the magpul ACS I'd try, but if I could get the longer tube, anyone have one they are looking to sell?
 
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