Starter division?

You can but I'd generally recommend against it. Production is a great place to start and VERY competitive.
 
I would suggest standard myself just because I think it is very hard to learn how to properly get the first shot off double action in production.

The trouble with starting in open is the light trigger pull of most open guns.
 
Its an option, most people don't due to the higher cost of competitive gear. That being said you could throw a dot on a ported glock and be in open rather cheap
 
one of the reasons i am looking at open is money. for what i am looking at for an sti it would be less than buying a "stock" gun and getting it tweaked and added to over time.
the other is the local shop doesnt carry much and if i have to order something it should be something i like and know how it feels, which some guys at the local club have let me try their sti and i loved how it felt and shot.
 
Open is the cheaper way in the long run, but stay away from the temptation to run an uber light trigger until you are a bit more familiar with drawing, reloading and dealing with awkward positions (generally keeping your finger off until you are ready to shoot a target)
Also resist the urge to try to run with the more experienced shooters, you can get in over your head pretty quickly. Get used to the gun and the safety aspects before trying to push the limits.
 
You can start in any division that you like and there is no starter division. All divisions have some very skilled participates.

Open would be the most expensive division to start out in. You are paying for a gun probably some custom work and i quality optic.

Another disadvantage or an advantage is that relatively few people participate. Depending on the location you maybe the only competitior in that division.


It is pretty much a toss up between production and standard as the most popular division. A few people shoot open, and even fewer shoot revolver.
 
Reloading

Any of the divisions are good ones to start in; it's really all about your means and desires.

One of the big differentiators about Open not mentioned so far is that you can't do it unless you reload. 9mm major, 38 super, 38 supercomp in major power factor are all custom loads that you're going to have a very hard time buying.

So not only are you going to be getting used to the gun and the drawing and other things, you'll also have to be making sure that you''re outputting good ammo.

Edit: Ack to Quigley, beat me to it...I type slow on a laptop :)

Another disadvantage or an advantage is that relatively few people participate. Depending on the location you maybe the only competitior in that division.
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There are places in this country, notably the west; that Open is very very popular.
 
We have some guys that shoot locally shooting 9mm Open minor. With the CZ Czechmate you can do this easily, or factory .38 super in a STI or Tangfoglio. Or you could run a .40 Open gun as some others do....I even know one shooter with a fully built .45 STI Open gun that works quite well. If shooting factory is neccessary for the time being, there are ways.
 
PH Racing said:
factory .38 super in a STI or Tangfoglio.
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STI and Tanfoglio IPSC guns are built and sprung for major caliber ammunition. Attempting to use factory minor ammunition has proven an effort in futility and is not supported by the factory.

The last thing a new shooter needs to be dealing with is trying to figure out how to make his new gun work using ammo it was not designed for.
 
JBD said:
Another disadvantage or an advantage is that relatively few people participate. Depending on the location you maybe the only competitior in that division.

It is pretty much a toss up between production and standard as the most popular division. A few people shoot open, and even fewer shoot revolver.
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Not sure where you are shooting JBD but that is not the case out west. here in Alberta we run about 1/3 between Open, Standard and Production.
 
Fair enough, if someone is not capable of swapping springs in an Open gun they probably shouldn't run an Open gun. I've run all kinds of mixed major and minor loads both in my old P9 and my STI based guns with no problem. Swap out a 10# spring for a 7# or 8# and they run fine. I've used such loads to shoot Action Pistol and PPC with my IPSC guns with no ill effects. I have run Tangfoglio (P9), Para, Caspian, STI and SVI based Open guns and run either minor (130+/-pf) loads or factory .38 super, and we even managed to find some factory 9x21, which in factory loads is the same as 9mm, and ran it through Jeffs Caspian framed, accurailed, ported and comped racegun and it worked perfect.
To be fair 9mm Open 1911's barely run in the first place so I can see them having an issue going minor, but a properly built 1911 in .38 Super or 9mm based gun like a CZ should run. If it doesn't there's a problem with the gun.
 
Walter Hornby said:
Not sure where you are shooting JBD but that is not the case out west. here in Alberta we run about 1/3 between Open, Standard and Production.
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Alberta's not west :D

bc is west and we have many open shooters, i'm sure the ratio is still low compared to production.

but they seem to travel in packs , like wild dogs :D
 
Walter Hornby said:
I would suggest standard myself just because I think it is very hard to learn how to properly get the first shot off double action in production.

The trouble with starting in open is the light trigger pull of most open guns.
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In my experience most Standard guns have the same trigger as Open guns.
 
dilligaf850 said:
once again thanks for the input
i dont plan on "competing" this year so lots of time to practice and practice reloading
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I would strongly suggest that before you start "practicing" you get a lesson or two so the BB instructor will not have to spend all of day one trying to break your bad habitats.
 
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