Starting Out Equipment

HFreedman

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Apologize in advance if there's a sticky thread for this, but I couldn't find one!

I've been shooting for quite some time now, and now have the funds & space available to start reloading my own ammunition.

I was hoping the fine folks here could point me in the right direction to get started:
- what's the essential literature (either online or books) that I need to start reading before even putting money down
- once I have an understanding, what's the essential start equipment and supplies that I will need
- I would like the ability to re-load pistol (.45 Long Colt) and rifle (6.5 x .284) using the same equipment. Is that possible? I'd assume I would need different powders, primers, dies, etc. but could I use the same press, etc.?

Appreciate all the help in advance!
 
I use a Lee hand press set because I am just starting reloading and I wanted something small and simple. That with a set of dies, a digital scale and digital calipers should just about do it for clean pistol brass. You will need a tumbler if you are going to clean brass.
I don't know anything about trimming rifle brass...

Here is a good list of start up equipment:
http://forum.pafoa.org/ammunition-r...nt-procedure-basics-beginners-read-first.html

Here is a video on using the Lee hand press:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K6IoNCtFHwU
 
Get a copy of The ABC's of Reloading. Step by step pics of the steps. Great reference tool.
Clint
 
And again...

There are two routes.

The first has already been mentioned and is the cheapest - the Lee Loader. It produces perfectly good ammo, but trades effort for cost and each round takes longer to produce. On the order of $50 per calibre. You will need a hammer and a solid surface like a concrete floor or work desk to use it on.

Then there are the conventional presses, ones that mount on a workbench and use compound leverage to make things easier and faster. There are three basic types.
  • The single stage machines do one thing at a time and you have to change the dies for every new process. It's where most people start and many if not most never feel they need more.

  • Turret presses are much the same except all the dies are mounted together in a plate that can simply be turned to bring them into play one after the other. They are rather more convenient once set up; cost of course is rather greater.

  • Progressive machines are essentially automatic - once set up and filled, you get a round of ammo every time you crank the handle. They are more complex and decidedly more expensive and probably more than you need unless you are firing a lot of ammo on a regular basis. (If you do, on the other hand, single-stage or turret presses probably aren't up to what you need.)
Any of these presses can be used to reload any normal cartridge (leaving out rimfire, pinfire and .50 BMG, ie).

Stuff to get on top of that?

Before you buy anything else. Two books:

  • As noted, ABCs of Reloading is an excellent introduction to reloading. Large paperback. You'll save a lot of time, effort and money by spending a night or two digesting this before you buy anything else. It's only lack is that it does not have many 'recipes'; for that you will need...

  • a reloading manual put out by one of the major component manufacturers (none of them are bad). Read it before you actually start reloading. Until you get some experience, I wouldn't take any loads off the net.

Asides from the press, powder, bullet and primers (assuming you have saved brass), you must get:

• a workbench of some sort. It can be custom built, a folding work-mate or even a way to use your kitchen counter, but you must have something reasonably solid.

• dies and a shell holder for the calibre(s) in question. To reload more calibres, you need only buy more dies and (perhaps) shell holders.

• scales. Electronic or balance.

• a reloading block - a tray to hold your cases as you work through the process. You can buy them or make them with a piece of 2x6 and a drill press.

• a legal way to store primers and powder. Lockable box with EXPLOSIVES written on the outside is the starting point.

• a book of some sort to record your efforts so you can tell what works and what doesn't. You can buy specially-printed ones but a school notebook works just as well

• good lighting. If your reloading place isn't bright, buy a cheap gooseneck lamp. I got mine (a floor model) at Ikea - it's flex neck allows me to put the light where it is needed

• often overlooked - safety googles and a fire extinguisher. Chicken Little only has to be right once. Besides, they create an reassuring aura in the eyes of spouses and landlords.


'Should-have-but-not-critical' stuff:

• powder measure. It dumps a measured volume of propellant.

• powder trickler (the 'throw low and trickle up' concept is useful for high accuracy loads)

• small flashlight

• accurate calipers and, if you've the inclination, a micrometer.

• a primer pocket resizing tool (different kinds) and primer crimp remover if you are trying to reload military ammo cases

• automatic primer feed, strip or tube, to avoid having to handle individual primers


'Nice-to-have' stuff:

• primer pocket cleaner

• magnifying glass

• a small funnel for pouring powder into cases

• tumbler. You can reload without one, but asides from making things shiny, they also make it easier to examine your brass for cracks, etc

• I found the lube pad that came with my first kit messy and the lube provided with it a pain to clean off the cases. I dropped $6 on a tiny tin of Imperial Sizing Die Wax. Tap one of your fingers lightly on the wax and roll the case between your fingers. Much less messy and it lasts almost forever.

• case trimmer. You'll need it eventually, especially if reloading hot ammo

• a deburring tool to 'round off' neck edges, especially after trimming.

• bullet puller. Everybody makes mistakes. Most people use a kinetic one, shaped like a hammer.


Some things you won't need until you really need them, and that will be on a Saturday night, 15 minutes before the store closes and in the middle of a blizzard:

• a couple of spare depriming pins for your dies

• a stuck case remover.

You can get both for under $10 and they'll save you a lot of grief
 
Don't cheap out on reloading equipment, it is just as important as your scope or your rifle, my favs. are Forster Co-ax press, Forster or Redding dies, a good elec. scale, powder measure, I like Harrel, Belding and Mull, and Lyman, as well as Forster, and an inexpensive powder trickler......If you want to up your production, both Hornady and esp. Dillon offer good quality progressive machines.
 
Fantastic post Atom, thank you. I think I have a good idea from reading around about the kind of stuff that I will need. But literature first! I can order ABC's online at amazon.ca, but I can't find the Hornady 8th Edition Reloading Handbook from any Canadian source.

Anyone know where I can pick this up?
 
HFreedman - Good luck. Take it one step at a time, double-check everything and don't be afraid to ask for guidance.

:wave:
 
:agree:

And one of these
http://leeprecision.com/xcart/4-Hole-Turret-Press-with-Auto-Index.html

or

http://leeprecision.com/xcart/4-Hole-Classic-Turret-Press.html

The 4-Hole Turret with Auto Index was the one I was looking at. Thoughts on this? It will allow me to easily switch between .45 Colt & 6.5 x .284

Also looks like a really good quality build.
 
I have been using a Lyman Turret press for 20+ years it has made thousands of rounds for me. I am shooting a lot more nowadays so I have ordered a progressive from Henry at Budget Shooters Supply...

I would suggest a single stage until you get basic fundamentals of reloading...as mentioned earlier, get the ABCs of Reloading book.

Good luck with your purchase and ask lots of questions
 
ATOM, wow!! I just got all the info I needed from this one thread. That was a pant load of good intel. I wish all CGN'ers were as cool as you are for helping new guys out like that. I've been thinking of reloading to cut ammo cost and get more accurate loads for my guns. Because of you, I now know exactly what my next move is. Thank you so much...

The dirtiest Monroe of them all.

P.S. This thread should totally be a sticky...
 
Don't cheap out on reloading equipment, it is just as important as your scope or your rifle, my favs. are Forster Co-ax press, Forster or Redding dies, a good elec. scale, powder measure, I like Harrel, Belding and Mull, and Lyman, as well as Forster, and an inexpensive powder trickler......If you want to up your production, both Hornady and esp. Dillon offer good quality progressive machines.

I am with Ben on this one. Buy the best you can afford since if you stick with it you will not have to upgrade which you will believe me if you buy starter gear or if you decide it is not for you there is no problem selling good equipment and getting most of your money back.
 
I started out with the lee 50th anniversary kit and wish I would have just bought the press alone.I love the press but upgraded scales to a lyman digital,The powder measure works alright but is not the greatest and would like to upgrade it,I dont even use the safety prime system cause it actually goes faster by hand.I thought I could start out for $149.99 + tax +dies and have everything I needed to get started but after scale,book,caliper etc it was closer to $600.But after getting into it I wonder now why I didnt start years ago.My reloads are far more accurate and cheaper than factorys so I have done alot more target pratice in the last year than the last 5 years combined and I think become a better shot.
 
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