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i am relatively new to the sport. a couple of days ago, i could not hit anything at station 6. i normally don't have any problem. i also came home with a sore shoulder which has never happened. i shoot left handed. the other shooters were telling me that i kept stopping my swing when i shot. i am beginning to think that i had my feet positioned incorrectly on the pad. thoughts?
 
Not your foot position! I would think these thoughts, 1. Gun fit, especially being left handed, as I am, 2. Lifting head to watch target break or checking lead, the first you shoot over, the second you stop the gun, 3. Leaving, e.g. Starting gun movement, before the target leaves house, resulting in stopping to wait for the target. If shoulder in hurting try mounting the gun higher on your shoulder, keeping neck more straight and slightly lower head to comb which prevent rolling your head over the comb and will keep your eyes level, just like when you walk! Hope this helps!
 
Donski said:
Not your foot position! I would think these thoughts, 1. Gun fit, especially being left handed, as I am, 2. Lifting head to watch target break or checking lead, the first you shoot over, the second you stop the gun, 3. Leaving, e.g. Starting gun movement, before the target leaves house, resulting in stopping to wait for the target. If shoulder in hurting try mounting the gun higher on your shoulder, keeping neck more straight and slightly lower head to comb which prevent rolling your head over the comb and will keep your eyes level, just like when you walk! Hope this helps!
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I remember stopping so suddenly that the end of the barrel bounced up. We shoot next Tuesday. I will keep my head up and stop checking for lead.
 
Station 6, left handed shooter. Line yourself up feet parallel as if on a pair of skis and belly button pointed at the high house window. This sets your gun at rest across your chest naturally pointed in the area you wish to break both targets from that side of the field. This keeps your swing flowing naturally in the target breaking area without running out of natural swing. Always practice breaking the singles in the same place you would the doubles too as this aids you in always seeing and using the same sight picture and leads.
 
I really enjoy the sport but get frustrated when I can't figure out what is wrong. I nailed it until station 6 where I didn't hit any one bird. Threw me off rest of game. Decided to give it a rest and head home. It is a difficult game and I love it.
 
Station 6 for left-handed shooters is the same issue as Station 2 for a right handed shooter. The target at these to Stations create a optical illusion for the brain, the brain thinks the target is moving faster than it is and alot, myself included run into problems with shooting in front of these targets by swinging the gun too fast or getting to far ahead of the bird and stopping the gun to let the target catch up and shooting behind it. The advice I was given was to spend a box of shells on that station and master it. One member even will shoot station 2 gun down.
 
The absolute best way to shoot the game IMO is by the sustained lead method. This will aid in seemingly slowing the targets down significantly. On station 6 your first shot on singles is of course the high house. If you shoot that bird where you would when you shoot the doubles it will require about 18" of sustained lead. Start as I stated earlier by having your feet parallel and spaced as though you are on a pair of skis with your belly button lined up with the high house window. Your hold point should be about 1/3 of the distance out between the high house and the centre of the field and level with the bottom of the high house window. Focus your vision about 1 foot to the left side of your muzzle. When the target appears in that focal area pick it up and lead it across the field and shoot it where you would if it were the second target of the doubles. For the low house bird keep the exact same foot position, DO NOT CHANGE IT, your hold point should be level with the bottom of the low house window and approximately 3 feet out from parallel to the low house wall position. Again focus your vision off the side of the muzzle, this time the right hand side and when the target appears in that area pick it up and lead it. Lead on the low house target at station 6 is only 6 inches and you want to break it about 15 feet before the centre pin. That is where you want to break it for the doubles as it places the high house target 15 feet before centre on the high house side of the field allowing you to stop your swing after breaking the first target and pick up the second target as it comes toward you rather than putting you behind it playing catch up. Shoot those singles in the same place as the doubles always. Your leads are then always the same and this method always puts you in front of the targets instead of behind them. Just my .02 worth

http://usayess.org/userfiles/file/BenderCheatSheet.pdf
 
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the spank said:
The absolute best way to shoot the game IMO is by the sustained lead method. This will aid in seemingly slowing the targets down significantly. On station 6 your first shot on singles is of course the high house. If you shoot that bird where you would when you shoot the doubles it will require about 18" of sustained lead. Start as I stated earlier by having your feet parallel and spaced as though you are on a pair of skis with your belly button lined up with the high house window. Your hold point should be about 1/3 of the distance out between the high house and the centre of the field and level with the bottom of the high house window. Focus your vision about 1 foot to the left side of your muzzle. When the target appears in that focal area pick it up and lead it across the field and shoot it where you would if it were the second target of the doubles. For the low house bird keep the exact same foot position, DO NOT CHANGE IT, your hold point should be level with the bottom of the low house window and approximately 3 feet out from parallel to the low house wall position. Again focus your vision off the side of the muzzle, this time the right hand side and when the target appears in that area pick it up and lead it. Lead on the low house target at station 6 is only 6 inches and you want to break it about 15 feet before the centre pin. That is where you want to break it for the doubles as it places the high house target 15 feet before centre on the high house side of the field allowing you to stop your swing after breaking the first target and pick up the second target as it comes toward you rather than putting you behind it playing catch up. Shoot those singles in the same place as the doubles always. Your leads are then always the same and this method always puts you in front of the targets instead of behind them. Just my .02 worth

http://usayess.org/userfiles/file/BenderCheatSheet.pdf
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What a great forum! I seriously think by biggest problem is that I am not using the sustained lead method. Wish me luck, I'm going to give it a go next week. Thanks for all the replies :)
 
I have been out to the club twice now and shot the Todd Benders fundamentals. I must say that I am quit impressed. I have a lot more control and am more consistent in my shooting. I am still having problems getting out in front of the bird on high 2 and 6 low. Going to try to get out Thu as this day is more for practice or new shooters. It is going to take time but I feel confident that this will improve my shooting.
 
It has been a long time since I shot skeet - about 50 years. When I was learning I had a problem with one position. the pro stood me there. coached me and I kept practicing until I got 100% hits. Since then i always found it the easiest bird to hit, because I had been properly trained on how to do it.

Suggest you get a coach and stay at that bird until you master it.
 
mveniot said:
.... I am still having problems getting out in front of the bird on high 2 and 6 low.
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If you are having problems with any particular bird(s) or station(s) don't be afraid to change (remember that old saw about doing the same thing the same way and expecting a different result)

Keep your head down on the stock and follow through (i.e. don't "stop" or "check" your swing) and don't try to "measure" the lead (which promotes stopping your swing ... you stop your swing to pull the trigger when everything looks right) are a couple of steps in the right direction. As a right-hander, consistency at 2H, 5L and 6L gave me fits for some time. I'd try many "solutions", but still managed a miss or two at these targets. What worked for me (after much trial and error and many shells) was nothing simpler than moving my "hold point" out a little at these specific targets ... a few feet beyond the oft-quoted barrel being pointed to an imaginary spot perpendicular to the 1-7 "base line" ... worked like a charm. Being coached by a good shooter who actually knows what's going on with a box or two of shells from one position also works ... but be prepared for a little frustration and several changes in your shooting mechanics until you start to hit consistently. Lefties can often benefit being coached by another well-experienced lefty. Left hand foot positions and hold points are not necessarily "mirror" image versions of what righties do.
 
My problem with station 6 is that if I get past it "clean", I think I've just cleaned the field! Then I get to 7... and miss low 7!!! Nothin' feels worse than missin' low 7!! Only one remedy... DYN-O- MITE for station 6... and if I have any left over, station 2 is gonna get it too!!... C.
 
Low 7 used to be the "beer bird" when I started shooting in my late teens. I learned fast how to pulverize low 7 as I could not afford to buy the squad a beer after each round!! And the guys showed no mercy to the 16 year old who was paying his own way on the field, not supported by some rich father supplying the ammo and cash for targets!! :rockOn:
 
Yup, know all about the beer thing!:( Thankfully, it doesn't happen tooooo often.

A couple weeks ago, I missed a chance at a shootoff because I missed low 7. Talk about choke!! Ya, I bought LOTS of beer that day... and it was all for ME!!:mad: HAHA... C.
 
I missed low 6 of the doubles in both of my first rounds last week with my 28 gauge and had to settle for a 98. But that doesn't seem to hurt as much as missing the second 8 low. Missing isn't as bad when you know why you missed, but sometimes you pull the trigger and everything looks perfect, yet the target just doesn't break.
 
High 2 and Low 6 is all about hold point and eye shift.
Has to be perfect every time... Can get away with a lot on the other stations.

High 2, Low 6, 3/4/5 doubles....hold point and eye shift.
 
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