Steel Slugs
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If they exist, I've never heard of them. There might be some specialty projectiles around incorporating a steel penetrator, but probably not for the civilian market. A shotgun slug made of steel would be kinda hard on barrels.
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BEARMAN said:
In The book Stopping Power by Marshall and Sanow they tested 10 different slugs in ballistic gelatin and found that the Remington slugs petals broke off and it penetrated as a single .50 cal projectile resulting in dismal wound ballistics and excessive penetration. The BFS or Ball Fleche Sauvestre slug which is shaped like a mortar shell and reinforced with a steel rod penetrate material and flesh exte\remely well and also produces enourmous wound channels. Where to get it apart from France Je Ne Ce Pas.
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i do believe its brenneke makes a slug like that.some hardened alloy.still not a steel slug though.
12 gauge 2¾ Brenneke R10 slug
The nose design of these slugs is such that very controlled expansion occurs with the slug retaining 97% of it's original mass. The slight expansion and geometry of the expanded head are such that as the slug travels through target media it cuts a larger diameter wound tract. As compared to most regular foster styled slugs cast/swaged from soft lead, the brennekes are manufactured from a harder alloy that largly accounts for the slug holding together better at the higher velocites. When pushed in the neigourhood of 1600 fps, the softer lead slugs tend to deform significantly; losing their penetrating potential as the slug either expands so much as to present huge cross sectional area or breaks up into smaller, less efficient fragments. As the brennekes hold together better, they are a more appropriate slug when deep penetration in dangerous game is required.
12 gauge 2¾ Brenneke R10 slug
The nose design of these slugs is such that very controlled expansion occurs with the slug retaining 97% of it's original mass. The slight expansion and geometry of the expanded head are such that as the slug travels through target media it cuts a larger diameter wound tract. As compared to most regular foster styled slugs cast/swaged from soft lead, the brennekes are manufactured from a harder alloy that largly accounts for the slug holding together better at the higher velocites. When pushed in the neigourhood of 1600 fps, the softer lead slugs tend to deform significantly; losing their penetrating potential as the slug either expands so much as to present huge cross sectional area or breaks up into smaller, less efficient fragments. As the brennekes hold together better, they are a more appropriate slug when deep penetration in dangerous game is required.
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I did once see on the internet, russian made slugs of a straight cylinder design that certainly appeared to be made of steel. And of course had a wad designed to prevent damage to the barrel.
For easier identification, the red? plastic shell had a figure of a walking bear profile to identify this as bear protection/hunting ammo.
I did not know where you can get this ammo, or who manufactures it.....or the technical details even.
Sorry
For easier identification, the red? plastic shell had a figure of a walking bear profile to identify this as bear protection/hunting ammo.
I did not know where you can get this ammo, or who manufactures it.....or the technical details even.
Sorry
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I beleive the "flechette" type projectile is prohibited by regulation...NON?
The ammunition and projectiles listed below are defined as prohibited ammunition in subsection 84(1) of the Criminal Code:
(a) any cartridge that is capable of being discharged from a commonly available semi-automatic handgun or revolver and that is manufactured or assembled with a projectile that is designed, manufactured, or altered so as to be capable of penetrating body armour composed of aramid fibre or similar fabric;
(b) any projectile that is designed, manufactured, or altered to ignite on impact, where the projectile is designed for use in or in conjunction with a cartridge and does not exceed 15 mm in diameter;
(c) any projectile that is designed, manufactured, or altered to explode on impact, where the projectile is designed for use in or in conjunction with a cartridge and does not exceed 15 mm in diameter; and
(d) any cartridge that is capable of being discharged from a shotgun and that contains projectiles known as flechettes or any similar projectiles.
As far as the copper solids go, I think the box says the petals are supposed to break off and create their own damage...I have never dug one out
The ammunition and projectiles listed below are defined as prohibited ammunition in subsection 84(1) of the Criminal Code:
(a) any cartridge that is capable of being discharged from a commonly available semi-automatic handgun or revolver and that is manufactured or assembled with a projectile that is designed, manufactured, or altered so as to be capable of penetrating body armour composed of aramid fibre or similar fabric;
(b) any projectile that is designed, manufactured, or altered to ignite on impact, where the projectile is designed for use in or in conjunction with a cartridge and does not exceed 15 mm in diameter;
(c) any projectile that is designed, manufactured, or altered to explode on impact, where the projectile is designed for use in or in conjunction with a cartridge and does not exceed 15 mm in diameter; and
(d) any cartridge that is capable of being discharged from a shotgun and that contains projectiles known as flechettes or any similar projectiles.
As far as the copper solids go, I think the box says the petals are supposed to break off and create their own damage...I have never dug one out
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I used the solid copper sabots but only on trees. It was punching holes clean through most any tree I shot save the really thick ones. I was even lucky enough to find a deformed slug stuck a 1\2 inch in a tree after penetrating 8" through a pine tree. The petals were gone and the slug mashed all to hell. Significantly deeper penetration compared to a lead foster (4"into pine if i am lucky).
steel slugs
Proparms www.proparms.com used to manufacture them in 20 mm. I don't know if they still do.
They were not intended for use in a 12 guage.
Proparms www.proparms.com used to manufacture them in 20 mm. I don't know if they still do.
They were not intended for use in a 12 guage.
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I believe that there are some specialty slugs manufactured in the states for breaching doors that are made with a powdered steel core so they will not ricochet.
