Yep.Did you weigh them when I wasn't looking?
That has nothing to do with their legal status in Kanada.
Mark
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What i was saying was to i don't care.
He said only mp5k was a pistol stateside
Oh I definitely wouldn't put it past him or they way answered that post
JR thanks for still being around and directly answering questions here. Do you know of anyone else will get a chance to do a preview similar to Ballistically Speaking, before these become available to Siwash and Targetsports?
I know that JR is a busy guy, so I will say that I have been in contact with JR and will have a NR version of the R9 for review within the next week or so. I will post my findings here on CGN. Somebody with skills can share it to R/CanadaGuns on Reddit, etc.
I will be doing most of my testing on an indoor range, so won't be able to offer Edmonton-based Gunnutz an opportunity to join me this time. I will however try to capture some first impressions from other firers who happen to be on the range with me.
We have a list of about 10-12 reviewers that we are sending guns out to in about a week.. we want to ship mid-Shot show so they get to the people once they get home.
Target, Wild West and a couple other facilities will have them as loaners around the same time.
An FRT isn’t required and the Libs probably missed this one because it doesn’t have an FRT, same with the Crusader Arms Crypto/Templar/Crux/Crucible which for now are still legal, hopefully an election comes soon and once we win these bans will go away, I’m cautiously optimistic.
You are correct, assuming that SAI only sells 10.5" Upper Receivers as accessory parts to a NR 18.5" R9 PCC. The minute someone attempts to re-register their 10.5" Upper on a NR lower however (in order to use it at the range), that will automatically trigger the FRT process with the SFSS Lab-rats.
It would he best for all concerned if SAI only sold 18.5 NR PCCs until the government favourably changes. Similarly, they should only sell 10.5" uppers as "parts" for the R9, with the understanding that nobody attempt to register an R9 as Restricted until the Government has favourably changed.
It would he best for all concerned if SAI only sold 18.5 NR PCCs until the government favourably changes. Similarly, they should only sell 10.5" uppers as "parts" for the R9, with the understanding that nobody attempt to register an R9 as Restricted until the Government has favourably changed.
Where does it say the bullet has to touch the full length of the barrel? Or that the length of the barrel is only that which the bullet touches? You are making stuff up here.
Read the law.
https://www.parl.ca/Content/Bills/351/Government/c-68/c-68_4/c-68_4.pdf
page 72 (page 84 of the pdf file):
See these cuts at the muzzle end? Do they act to compensate recoil up and suppress the muzzle flash? So not included into the barrel length.
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It would also be very beneficial for discussion to stop repeating an obvious lie about "9mm starts loosing speed and energy after 10 inches on barrel". Which is insane bs. It does not slow down and it does not lose energy with a barrel longer than 10 inches:
https://firearmwiki.com/wiki/9mm_Velocity_by_Barrel_Length
http://www.ballisticsbytheinch.com/megraphs/9mm.html
The reason the gun has this odd barrel configuration has nothing to do with 9mm being slower in a longer barrel.
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You have read but you have not comprehended.
Did you notice the words, "component, part or accessory"? Those are things that are attached to the barrel, not the barrel itself. The barrel itself is a single piece of metal and the length of rifling is totally irrelevant. The law refers to anything ATTACHED to the barrel.
The notion that anyone could determine that of a single continuous piece of metal, one end is legal and the other end is not legal, beggars belief.
Your argument also ignores the tens of thousands of ported barrels that are currently perfectly legal in Canada and would be rendered below legal length if the ported bits were determined to not be part of the barrel length because those were designed to suppress recoil.
Then what is the reason for this barrel configuration ... as you clearly know more about the design of the rifle than the people who designed and built it?
A long while ago people were attempting to keep M1 carbines non retricted by permanently attaching a flash hider (siver solder), I remember being told that this did not meet the definition of barrel because the bullet did not touch the inside of the extension. No I am not making this up or having a bad dream.
Perhaps the Sterling barrel is legal because it is one piece and therefore clearly not an accessory. But I would still be concerend about the terms component or part and exactly what they mean. It does not say separate part (like my arm is separate from my foot) it just says part (like my knee is part of my leg).
Perhaps the Sterling barrel is legal because it is one piece and therefore clearly not an accessory. But I would still be concerend about the terms component or part and exactly what they mean. It does not say separate part (like my arm is separate from my foot) it just says part (like my knee is part of my leg).
Maybe YOU weren't making things up, but it sure sounds like whoever you were talking to was. As in making it up as he went along, regarding BS Bullet and Barrel contact requirements....
The SAI R9 Barrel is just fine as a single 18.5" length of partially-rifled steel tube. The RCMP "Lab Rats" have much bigger issues to worry about these days, like their forthcoming early retirements under a Conservative Majority government!
Just as soon as I can confirm reliability and accuracy with the R9 being lent to me by SAI for Review, I will be buying one for my PCC collection. I am not at all concerned about any future Lieberal bans, all of which are pointless and subject to immediate cancellation by a Conservative government. I equate any future bans to accidentally stepping in a pile of dog-sh#t - it stinks and is annoying as Hell, but it hardly ruins my entire day. The Lieberals are toast and not even Carny can save their sinking electoral prospects...
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I had read about those M1 carbines with the welded on "sleeves" for a barrel extension so they could be non restricted
It was Turd#1 that came out with the 18.5 barrel length BS so he could make the M1 carbine restricted as he didn't like that they were non restricted
Not sure if it was his govt or a later one that made the "extensions" not legal
It's all a bunch of horse C0ck BS if you ask me
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Looks like a solid rifle however, I will wait until a version is released without the current barrel. I understand the concept behind it but, the looks of it just kill it for me. I would also probably wait until the current government is only found in history books before releasing anything.
