It looks like the magazine was loaded with different types of ammo. Maybe hotter surplus with some weaker commercial stuff mixed in. We notice that happening when we get new lots of blanks for our movie guns that are a tad weaker or stronger than what we already have in stock. Cyclic rate will go up or down, or gun will not cycle and or jam. It goes on and on and on. Sorry, started rambling there..lol
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It looks like the magazine was loaded with different types of ammo. Maybe hotter surplus with some weaker commercial stuff mixed in. We notice that happening when we get new lots of blanks for our movie guns that are a tad weaker or stronger than what we already have in stock. Cyclic rate will go up or down, or gun will not cycle and or jam. It goes on and on and on. Sorry, started rambling there..lol
What he said about shooting blanks. You would have to cycle the action manually if you tried shooting blanks out of a semi or auto that didn't have a BFA of some type. If it did and you tried firing live ammo through it you could wind up in a world of hurt.
Here are some pics of my Canadian Arsenals Limited (C.A.L.) C1 SMG. It is a 12(3) Converted Automatic which anyone with a 12(3) endorsement can buy/sell/trade, but unfortunately, only amongst that group of licensed/endorsed persons. This class of firearm, along with 12(4) and 12(5) Military-Style Semi-Automatic (MSSA) long-guns are no longer permitted to be transported to a range for discharge. The CFOs banded together and decided to cease issuing "Special Authority to Possess" (SAP) permits for the transport of the CAs and MSSAs back in 2005. Anyhow, enough of the depressing history (and preview?!?) of Canadian Gun Control....
As detailed in my earlier post, my C1 SMG is one of 3 registered CA's known to be in private hands in Canada. Who knows, there may be more, but there were 3 for sure as of a few years ago. You will note that there is an old-school piece of Weaver rail attached to the upper barrel jacket of my SMG. That is there for mounting a red-dot sigh, a-la the famous Star Wars Stormtrooper "Blaster". That set-up won me and my partner a bowling pin match at one of John Hipwell's CA competitions back in the day. But I digress. The rail is completely removable, of course.
Here are the photos.
Enjoy!
this one brings back memories....i even remember a very nice clone made of wood of all things
I carried one for about two years before it was taken out of service. Super simple SMG with a rate of fire that made it friendlier to fire. I seem to recall we cleaned them in sinks, which is why I would never buy an ex-military firearm, because they are over-cleaned and abused. I recall the tank guys having 10 round mags for them, which would have been nice, versus the 30 I used. I saw a previous comment about a mag being loaded with 2 blanks and the rest ball ammunition. It's a blow back operation, so the action would not cycle if you shot a blank without a BFA (blank firing attachment). I tried this a few times to see if it was the case and to show others, and it is. I haven't seen one (just a few Stens) in any collections since they went out of service, but it would be neat to have one. It would go well with my Stormtrooper costume.
Apparently India is still making a version of the Sterling.
http://ofbindia.gov.in/products/data/weapons/wsc/8.htm
http://ofbindia.gov.in/products/data/weapons/wsc/8.htm
Brutus
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Blanks mixed with hard ball live ammo....
I agree with Suputin, and smell something fishy here. Along with the supposed pay parade robbery!!
t-star you are starting to sound just like sungay, so take your BS elsewhere!
hey I was the payee and all of 17year s old at the time, never did payroll duty, and we BELIEVED everything corporals and sergeants
and above told us- moreover had you READ CAREFULLY you would see it was an IDEA- mere conjecture , not a real happening-and it's SUNRAY
Brutus
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You know what, it never pays to repeat bull ####. That's exactly how people get labels.
Sorry guy...sure you're not mixing the Sterling up with the FNC1?
Bolt going forward when mag is removed?
Charge on an empty chamber?
On an open bolt subgun...
Bolt going forward when mag is removed?
Charge on an empty chamber?
On an open bolt subgun...
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More BS....the empty nor the full magazine in no way restricts movement of the bolt. If the bolt was open on an empty magazine, it was solely the sear doing it's job. Removing the magazine would not change that. Unless you were firing and counting the shots, or just got lucky and released the trigger at the right time, you ended up with the bolt closed on an empty mag.
I have just seen this thread. Lot of misunderstanding over the SMG. I used one for several years and was also on the Ab Regt Small Small Arms Team. This is my 2 cents on the SMG.
It was designed for use by veh drivers, support wpn pers. When I was in the AB the TOW crewman and medics used it. I was in mortar pl we used the C1. Medics had it for defensive purposes. The armoured crews also used them.
When I did use one as a personal weapon, I did not like it. I felt under armed. It was a miserable firearm to sling over the shoulder due to the placement of cocking handle, pistol grip, magwell. One of the three always stuck in your back when slung doing work or going through the obs course. When used as a personal I always used aimed shots from the shoulder. Hip shots were only for being caught off guard or qualifing for the yearly test. I have dropped the smg, jumped out of trucks and fell, I never ever had the firearm discharge. I heard stories of it just going off but never actually seen it happen. I believe these issues were with the sten not the sterling.
When on the small arms team we would shoot all day for weeks, I never had a stoppage with it. It was fun to shoot. We would only take them apart for cleaning only one a week and would only use vaseline as a lubricant. At he end of the week they would be completely stripped and cleaned.
Methods of firing for competition were from the hip, sitting, kneeling, prone or standing. From the hip fun but a waste of ammo. All other positions firing was from the shoulder.placing I never fired the smg with gloves other than winter. I would hold the smg by placing my left hand on the barrel shroud with an overhand grip and my forearm under the mag. Rt hand on the pistol grip. The method was used for shooting in all positions other than prone. (Oblivious reason, both elbow on the ground. This method was altered for use with the 10 rd mag. I held it with a under hand grip as close to the mag as possible. With this method I had to ensure that my pinky was not close to the ejector port. I jammed my finger once when I first adopted this grip. It did not happen a second time.
That all being said, you will hear more from other people.
As for firing blank and ball ammo out of the same mag it is impossible. The firearm will not #### with a blank round unless a BFA is on. You would not want to fire a ball round with a BFA on it either.
It was designed for use by veh drivers, support wpn pers. When I was in the AB the TOW crewman and medics used it. I was in mortar pl we used the C1. Medics had it for defensive purposes. The armoured crews also used them.
When I did use one as a personal weapon, I did not like it. I felt under armed. It was a miserable firearm to sling over the shoulder due to the placement of cocking handle, pistol grip, magwell. One of the three always stuck in your back when slung doing work or going through the obs course. When used as a personal I always used aimed shots from the shoulder. Hip shots were only for being caught off guard or qualifing for the yearly test. I have dropped the smg, jumped out of trucks and fell, I never ever had the firearm discharge. I heard stories of it just going off but never actually seen it happen. I believe these issues were with the sten not the sterling.
When on the small arms team we would shoot all day for weeks, I never had a stoppage with it. It was fun to shoot. We would only take them apart for cleaning only one a week and would only use vaseline as a lubricant. At he end of the week they would be completely stripped and cleaned.
Methods of firing for competition were from the hip, sitting, kneeling, prone or standing. From the hip fun but a waste of ammo. All other positions firing was from the shoulder.placing I never fired the smg with gloves other than winter. I would hold the smg by placing my left hand on the barrel shroud with an overhand grip and my forearm under the mag. Rt hand on the pistol grip. The method was used for shooting in all positions other than prone. (Oblivious reason, both elbow on the ground. This method was altered for use with the 10 rd mag. I held it with a under hand grip as close to the mag as possible. With this method I had to ensure that my pinky was not close to the ejector port. I jammed my finger once when I first adopted this grip. It did not happen a second time.
That all being said, you will hear more from other people.
As for firing blank and ball ammo out of the same mag it is impossible. The firearm will not #### with a blank round unless a BFA is on. You would not want to fire a ball round with a BFA on it either.
I remember we were doing the infantry comp and a buddy of mine, radio op, was on the wire obstacle sliding half way along until the radio shifted. He ended up rolling over and then I watched as one by one his fingers let go and he fell, landing on his back.The SMG and PRC radio took the hit first, and the SMG pistol grip did a 45 degree cant. Remarkably he only had the wind knocked out of him, but I'll never forget the poor SMG.
As a shooter, I enjoyed it on the Small Arms team as a fun distraction. Otherwise never had much use for it unless playing enemy force or as part of the GPMG team. Cheers.
As a shooter, I enjoyed it on the Small Arms team as a fun distraction. Otherwise never had much use for it unless playing enemy force or as part of the GPMG team. Cheers.
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Still in the rack.
