Stevens vs Rem 710/770

Overall, which rifle is the better buy?

  • Remington 710/770

    Votes: 6 6.2%

  • Stevens model 200

    Votes: 91 93.8%
  • Total voters
    97
Thanks for the backup there powderburner, I wasn't trying to start a Pis sing match, but the stevens rates a solid 6/10 for me while the remington rates a 0/10. It didn't have ONE redeeming quality when I inspected it. I cant see how it could have been defended by that troll, but I guess one mans garbage is another mans treasure.
 
I'm a huge Remington fan, but I say you should avoid the 710 like the plague.

my vote is for a gently used 700

sgt.rock, It has one redeeming feature.... Exercise! because you will have to club your game to death after the 710 bolt locks up and refuses to open:D
 
Laugh out frigging loud, that was hilarious!!!!!!!
I totally missed the exercise portion during inspection of that 770. Now I change my mind, seeing as the population is becoming less healthy and packing on the "supersize me pounds". I think every hunter should own a remington 770.
I have no quarrels with the 700's or 798's. I have a 700 in 7mm rem mag and its very accurate. Its just that they dropped the ball completely with the 770/710.
 
well, if you look at the Savage and Remington as the 'parent' rifles (lets keep Savage vs Remington stuff out of this), and the Stevens and 710/770 as their entry level offerings... this is what you give up when you buy one:

Stevens, or Savage rifle/scope package
-no accutrigger
(pretty much everything else is the same, and factory/aftermarket parts are interchangeable)


Remington 710/770
you basically give up everything, because the rifle shares nothing in common with the 700

-the entire receiver is just a straight piece of pipe with a plastic sleeve that fits in it to make the bolt raceways :runaway:
-press-fit barrel (even threading the barrel/receiver was considered too much of a manufacturing cost)
-recoil lug not attached to action, just sandwiched in plastic stock and holds a small notch in the barrel
-plastic triggerguard
-trigger in a plastic housing (and non-adjustable)
-plastic tang
-many people breaking a simple plastic part like the mag latch and having to order an entirely new stock assembly
-plastic bolt stop that can actually wear away
-bolt gets very rough when gun starts to heat up after firing 3-4 shots
-plastic bolt shroud

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basically they went over every single part of the 700 and re-designed it to keep manufacturing/material costs at the absolute minimum. sounds like just the kind of rifle you want to invest your money in :runaway:
 
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Your poll is to restricted, kind of like a gov't poll.

I wouldn't own either if I had a choice.

That's only my very humble opinion though. Each to his own or whatever you can afford.

bearhunter
 
manbearpig said:
well, if you look at the Savage and Remington as the 'parent' rifles (lets keep Savage vs Remington stuff out of this), and the Stevens and 710/770 as their entry level offerings... this is what you give up when you buy one:

Stevens, or Savage rifle/scope package
-no accutrigger
(pretty much everything else is the same, and factory/aftermarket parts are interchangeable)


Remington 710/770
you basically give up everything, because the rifle shares nothing in common with the 700

-the entire receiver is just a straight piece of pipe with a plastic sleeve that fits in it to make the bolt raceways :runaway:
-press-fit barrel (even threading the barrel/receiver was considered too much of a manufacturing cost)
-recoil lug not attached to action, just sandwiched in plastic stock and holds a small notch in the barrel
-plastic triggerguard
-trigger in a plastic housing (and non-adjustable)
-plastic tang
-many people breaking a simple plastic part like the mag latch and having to order an entirely new stock assembly
-plastic bolt stop that can actually wear away
-bolt gets very rough when gun starts to heat up after firing 3-4 shots
-plastic bolt shroud



basically they went over every single part of the 700 and re-designed it to keep manufacturing/material costs at the absolute minimum. sounds like just the kind of rifle you want to invest your money in :runaway:
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That sums it up.

and why plastic, for the bolt raceways, and a press fit barrel.

at least with the savage you have a plaform that you can work with if you ever decide to make changes.

the 710/770 you have a throw away rifle.
 
sgt.rock said:
Thanks for the backup there powderburner, I wasn't trying to start a Pis sing match, but the stevens rates a solid 6/10 for me while the remington rates a 0/10. It didn't have ONE redeeming quality when I inspected it. I cant see how it could have been defended by that troll, but I guess one mans garbage is another mans treasure.
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Why are you such a complete #######? Do you have nothing else better to do? I don't see anyone else throwing insults around like this. Just because another member prefers the Remington over the Steevens, why piss on him?

If given a choice between the (2), I'd take the Stevens.
 
woodchopper said:
That sums it up.

and why plastic, for the bolt raceways, and a press fit barrel.

at least with the savage you have a plaform that you can work with if you ever decide to make changes.

the 710/770 you have a throw away rifle.
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I doubt the barrel metal would make a good reliable pry-bar :D
PS. I voted for the Stevens 200.
 
I'd definately buy a savage over a 710/770 but I'd buy a Vanguard over a savage. I really think for the money the vangaurd is the best rifle out there.
 
2bad4u2 said:
Why are you such a complete a**hole? Do you have nothing else better to do? I don't see anyone else throwing insults around like this. Just because another member prefers the Remington over the Steevens, why piss on him?

If given a choice between the (2), I'd take the Stevens.
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I was being such a complete a$$hole because you were not discouraging an obvious beginner from buying a rifle that is inferior in every way to something that he could expand upon when he got more experience. Anyone who has any amount of time using varied firearms would try to help out someone who is beginning in the sport. It is a co-operative sport in my opinion. What better way to drive someone to knitting, than let someone buy a POS rifle and have them get discouraged. I am not saying that you were telling him to buy the remington, its that you weren't and were actually defending it.
I apologise for the Troll insult, but I was taken aback when in the face of factual data, you still said the remmy was a decent gun and at least on par with the Stevens. Anyhow, I am done with this thread as all that needs to be said has been. Good luck to youngmcculloch on whatever you buy, and let us know what you ended up buying and how you like it, because thats all that truly matters, is if you like it.
 
yea know theres this exchange forum thingy that sells GOOD used firearms and the odd one rolls around at a decent price and you actualy get a firearm in the mail from the seller rather than a headache? just noticed that thought I would share lol
 
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sgt.rock said:
I was being such a complete a$$hole because you were not discouraging an obvious beginner from buying a rifle that is inferior in every way to something that he could expand upon when he got more experience. Anyone who has any amount of time using varied firearms would try to help out someone who is beginning in the sport. It is a co-operative sport in my opinion. What better way to drive someone to knitting, than let someone buy a POS rifle and have them get discouraged. I am not saying that you were telling him to buy the remington, its that you weren't and were actually defending it.
I apologise for the Troll insult, but I was taken aback when in the face of factual data, you still said the remmy was a decent gun and at least on par with the Stevens. Anyhow, I am done with this thread as all that needs to be said has been. Good luck to youngmcculloch on whatever you buy, and let us know what you ended up buying and how you like it, because thats all that truly matters, is if you like it.
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You've got your facts mixed up bub. I didn't recommend either rifle and said they were both polished turds. You won't find one comment from me on either a 710 or 770 because I have absolutely no experience with them. Savages, I have.

Go back and re-read my posts. As a lessor of the two evils, I'd take the Stevens. I've already said that - x2 now.
 
bone-collector said:
yea know theres this exchange forum thingy that sells GOOD used firearms and the odd one rolls around at a decent price and you actualy get a firearm in the mail from the seller rather than a headache? just noticed that thought I would share lol
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:D just checking Canada Post package tracking. :mad: express post why is it called that anyways :mad:


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oh and it's a Stevens :D
 
if the 710 is so cheaply produced,
why do dealers still want $ 5-600 (or more) for it?
why are people still paying premium prices for sub-standard gear?
how many guns does a regular canadian hunter wear out in his life time?
 
Stevens is the safer choice of the two rifles. You can get new stocks for them and triggers. The factory trigger is adjustable by qualified individuals.

They are both entry level rifles. Once you get more experience and know what features you like you can upgrade. If you really have a thing for Remmy's you can always get a SPS for ~$550. It's a few buck more than the Stevens, but not much more than the 770.
 
Perkins said:
if the 710 is so cheaply produced,
why do dealers still want $ 5-600 (or more) for it?
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$75 scope & rings
$25 rifle
$100 fee on the embarasment of having 1 on your shelf for sale
$400 fee for being a cheapass and buying 1 rather than a REAL rifle!

oh and dont forget the tax ;):D

honestly if I saw one for $600 in a gunshop I would laff my azz off as I walked out

psst.... wholesale only wants $409 for the 710 and $389 for the model 770 so were do you shop again? LMMFAO
 
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