steyr m9 m40 reliability issues?

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Good day,
I just discovered the steyr pistols when I was searching for a G17 gen 4 in stock somewhere, and happened to see them. They look great and I think I'm in love, but I understand from reading other threads that they have issues. What I didnt understand from the previous threads because I am not familiar with the model numbers,
--The currently available models still have ejection issues?
--and Can these easily be fixed by adding a second spring-and then will they work well?
--It will be a long time before new models make to Canada?
is this correct?
Thanks for any input.
 
DAR 701 said:
Never had an issue with my M9A1.
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Ditto. The Steyr is by far the best handgun I've ever owned. I did upgrade to a stainless steel guide rod and added a second 1911 spring, although arguably since the brass now sails across the range it probably wasn't needed. ;) I also picked up a grip plug and guide rod bushings to improve the trigger. You can source them all from these guys (excellent service).

h ttp://btguiderods.com/category/steyr-acc/
 
czscotia said:
Good day,
I just discovered the steyr pistols when I was searching for a G17 gen 4 in stock somewhere, and happened to see them. They look great and I think I'm in love, but I understand from reading other threads that they have issues. What I didnt understand from the previous threads because I am not familiar with the model numbers,
--The currently available models still have ejection issues?
--and Can these easily be fixed by adding a second spring-and then will they work well?
--It will be a long time before new models make to Canada?
is this correct?
Thanks for any input.
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The one has problems was the earier M9 and M40, the newer never have any issues, details can go steyr forum.

Trigun
 
I don't have FTE or FTF issues but some of the time (maybe 1 or less of every mag) brass will eject and smack me in the forehead.

I contacted Steyr and they referred me to P&D Enterprises, their Canadian distributor. P&D says they will replace my extractor and springs if I send them my slide or whole gun. I haven't sent it in yet because mine is the newer model with updated extractor already (however not the newest with new roll pin, those aren't available in Canada). The only way this would be fixed is if my own extractor/spring is defective.

I'm thinking of doing the 1911 extractor spring mod, but it sounds like a pain in the ass to disassemble and fit.
 
Thanks very much guys for your replies. seems to be well liked by all -although brass in the forehead may get annoying. Let me ask you what would you buy the Steyr or Glock in 9. I know this is a very subjective question but I'd be interested in hearing from anyone who has both or has experiance with both.
 
The only issues some of them have is failure to eject and thats fixed by adding a $3 1911 plunger spring over your extractor spring. Problem solved ... zero issues with ejection after that. Steyrs eat anything and everything. If your not happy with the trigger simply polish the internals and add a few BigTaco parts.
Id purchase the steyr over the glock anyday, not because its better or anything just because its the most natural feeling grip on any gun ive held.
 
jlomein said:
I don't have FTE or FTF issues but some of the time (maybe 1 or less of every mag) brass will eject and smack me in the forehead.

I contacted Steyr and they referred me to P&D Enterprises, their Canadian distributor. P&D says they will replace my extractor and springs if I send them my slide or whole gun. I haven't sent it in yet because mine is the newer model with updated extractor already (however not the newest with new roll pin, those aren't available in Canada). The only way this would be fixed is if my own extractor/spring is defective.

I'm thinking of doing the 1911 extractor spring mod, but it sounds like a pain in the ass to disassemble and fit.
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Takes about 10 secs to dis the extractor with a flathead screw driver and maybe 11 secs to replace both springs the oposite way of dis. You wont get anymore ejections to the forehead after the mod, should land in a pile about 6 feet right and 1-2 feet back
 
czscotia said:
Thanks very much guys for your replies. seems to be well liked by all -although brass in the forehead may get annoying. Let me ask you what would you buy the Steyr or Glock in 9. I know this is a very subjective question but I'd be interested in hearing from anyone who has both or has experiance with both.
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I can get a very high natural grip on the Steyr in relation to the bore. Combine this with the grip being more angled, and I find recoil/muzzle flip to be much less than a Glock.

When I take a high grip on the Glock I'm always afraid of "Glock bite" on the web of my hand.

Also note if you're thinking about .40S&W, the Steyr (including the 9mm) has a fully supported chamber, while the Glock does not. It's very rare, but there have been cases reported of high pressure .40S&W cases exploding inside the chamber of Glocks.
 
Steyr was the first polymer gun I've owned, since than l had M&Ps, XDm, FNP9, Glocks, SR9 and Steyr was probably my least favourite.
 
IM_Lugger said:
Steyr was the first polymer gun I've owned, since than l had M&Ps, XDm, FNP9, Glocks, SR9 and Steyr was probably my least favourite.
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I'd love to hear your reasons for disliking the Steyr. It would be good for the OP to have contrasting opinions. Handgun preference has a lot to do with the grip, which fits everyone differently.

I have medium hands with shorter fingers. For me, I like the M&P but slightly on the narrow side, Glocks seem to flip in my hand, and the SR9 felt very narrow and rather uncomfortable. With the Steyr I can get a solid two hand grip very high to the bore.

It's not perfect however, as my short thumbs can't reach the mag release or slide stop without changing grip. I think one of the above alternatives was easier for me in that regard, can't remember though.
 
The only downside for Steyr handguns that ive seen is the lack of parts in canada ... mostly, reasonably priced spare magazines. They can be purchased in the states for $24 onsale ever so often and they can be imported from SAI in the states cheaper than buying them through North Sylva also. Last i checked i think it was about $58 a mag to import. Bladetech Does make an IDPA holster kit for them also if anyone is looking for a holster.
 
I'd love to hear your reasons for disliking the Steyr.
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I really tried to like that gun but there was too just much I disliked. trigger pull seemed inconsistent one pull would be normal, next one way heavier. (IIRC they added a pin to the slide to address that problem, so it wasn't just my experience), Mine just would not work well with reloads that worked fine in other guns, too many jams and erratic ejection. Ejection pattern is/was a main issue with these guns. Sights are hard to get used to, even tho the gun can be quite accurate. Also I found that trigger was placed quite low and really forced my hand/index finger down.
 
Contacted Steyr about this and they said extractor issues have been solved in new model year. I've asked him to specify which year. I want to buy one but was worried about this issue. Seems its resolved. I heard difficulty in getting holsters. Any suggestions? Thanks.

This was their reply.
Jeff Reece <jreece@steyrarms.com>
"Yes, Steyr has designed a new extractor that has remedied any extraction issues."

He got back to me and said ALL models after 2010. Does anyone have a pistol after that year that is still acting up?
 
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IM_Lugger said:
I really tried to like that gun but there was too just much I disliked. trigger pull seemed inconsistent one pull would be normal, next one way heavier. (IIRC they added a pin to the slide to address that problem, so it wasn't just my experience), Mine just would not work well with reloads that worked fine in other guns, too many jams and erratic ejection. Ejection pattern is/was a main issue with these guns. Sights are hard to get used to, even tho the gun can be quite accurate. Also I found that trigger was placed quite low and really forced my hand/index finger down.
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Thanks for posting, this is a good read for the OP. Trigger pull issues you mentioned are true on some. The slide pin fixed version (called the roll pin version), has not been seen available in Canada yet. If you do have trigger issues such as variance between different pulls or squishiness, there are some aftermarket spring cups from Big Taco that can fix it.

I never had problems with reloads, but when my Steyr was new the chamber was extremely tight and plastic snap caps would jam hard. After about 500 live fire rounds and regular cleaning my plastic snap caps feed flawlessly. If you just have an issue with reloads, it may be because the reloaded cases are out of spec size.
 
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