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I've been a bit of a Cooper fan for a number of years, and actually had a lengthy telephone conversation with him back in the Orange Gunsite days, and I've especially been a fan of his scout concept. I've built a couple of "pseudo-scouts" (made length but not weight) and owned a Savage Scout for awhile before it moved on down the road, but really always wanted a Steyr as it was the only factory produced scout approved by the Dean himself.

When they first came out they were unobtainable to a young guy with small kids at about $2200 USD, but now I'm an old(er) guy and the kids are grown I notice them on Gunbroker all day long at $13-1500 USD which makes attainability much more likely.

my question is, who has these and how do you like them?? I'm not looking for a target rifle, got that covered already, I'm looking for a good hunting/general purpose shooting stick.

Your thoughts???

thanks for your time...


blake
 
A few years ago I was kinda interested in one until I saw a parts schematic of one. Way too many parts for something to go wrong in my opinion- typical of most European engineered rifles. I had two steyr sporting rifles in the past and parts were unobtainable. Cool concept, but not worth the gamble to me.

That's just my $0.02
 
A friend sold me his 'like new' Sako .243W Mannlicher not long after the Steyr 'Scout' was available in Canada.... because he was hot to buy the Steyr - he bought the Steyr and was very happy. I still have the Sako Mannlicher - but he sold the Steyr years ago and moved on. I like Steyr (and Mannlicher Schoenauer) rifles very much and have 5 of them ... they can all shoot well. I dont have a Steyr 'Scout' although I have looked at them many times like you.... but I do have that .243W Sako Mannlicher ... and its mate - a Sako Mannlicher in .375H&H.

I think a guy could do a lot worse than a Remington Model 7 Synthetic compact in 7/08 if 'light and handy' was a goal.
 
double gun said:
I had two steyr sporting rifles in the past and parts were unobtainable.
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1- Unfortunately, you hit the nail right on the head. Superb rifles, no parts.
2- Steyr Mannlicher is very well aware of that situation in Canada.
3- A few years ago, I was told by Mr Oliver Bauer, International Sales Manager at Steyr Mannlicher GmbH, that the problem was outside Austria and that he would fix it. Maybe when hell will have frozen over ...

To the OP : I met Colonel Cooper thirty years ago in Paulden, Arizona. I know a bit or two about the Scout Rifle concept.

P.S. Caramel, a well known member here, should chime in a short while. He will tell you first hand about his Steyr Mannlicher Scout rifle.
 
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When you buy your first Scout Steyr all other seem to fade away i own 4 308.308.308.376. I am not looking to buy any other make as the Steyr are way up there... JP.
 
Take a look at the steyrarms website, they have some interesting options. I could see myself being happy with the stainless scout, but preffered the elite more. The rail on the scout seemed a poor choice depending on what scope you wanted to use
 
caramel said:
When you buy your first Scout Steyr all other seem to fade away i own 4 308.308.308.376. I am not looking to buy any other make as the Steyr are way up there... JP.
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Caramel,

In order to help the OP make an enlightened decision, could you elaborate some more and tell us all why YOU like your Steyr Mannlicher Scout rifles so much ? Size, weight, handiness, etc ? Do you use Scout type scopes or "standard" scopes saddling the receiver ?

I can tell you that the Colonel Cooper would have liked you very much as his student, with your four (4) Steyr Scout rifles ...
 
Good friend of mine brought his when we went to Africa a few times. The .308 variety. A wonderful weapon. I watched that rifle do everything asked of it in a handy, light, accurate package. He wont sell his.
 
Snowy Owl said:
1- Unfortunately, you hit the nail right on the head. Superb rifles, no parts.
2- Steyr Mannlicher is very well aware of that situation in Canada.
3- A few years ago, I was told by Mr Oliver Bauer, International Sales Manager at Steyr Mannlicher GmbH, that the problem was outside Austria and that he would fix it. Maybe when hell will have frozen over ...

To the OP : I met Colonel Cooper thirty years ago in Paulden, Arizona. I know a bit or two about the Scout Rifle concept.

P.S. Caramel, a well known member here, should chime in a short while. He will tell you first hand about his Steyr Mannlicher Scout rifle.
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What do you guys mean by no parts? As in an extractor breaks and you now have a paperweight? Or are they just hard to get?
 
The only drawback with owning a Steyr is the same drawback as owning a Sako or a Beretta, namely the joy of dealing with North Sylva. (Actually, you don't deal with them, they deal only with dealers, which appears to be a one way street.) A lot of folk own Beretta's / Sako's and Steyr's and for a very good reason, they are quality items.

I used a Steyr Scout for about 5 years as my main hunting rifle in Europe, and they are very good as a general rifle. Hard to understand the quality difference until you have say a Ruger and a Steyr side by side. The difference is immediately noticeable, and that is before you shoot them, the difference is only further polarized.

Whilst spares can be a challenge here in Canada, the reality of it they do not require replacement parts often, and thankfully there is a good importer south of the border so spares are available ion that rare occassion.

If you do buy one, try to get everything at once. All the magazines / stock extension spacers etc. Get the lot, you can re-sell what you do not use at a premium due to rarity. Do not try to get them later, it will be pita.

I have a Steyr Elite (ss heavy barrelled version) and I like shooting the rifle a lot. 10 years and no spare parts required to date.

Buy one and enjoy, if you don't the resale value is good too.

Candocad.
 
Likewise I have never 'needed' parts on the SBS family of rifles I have owned, but have bought mags, mag housings, screws, rails etc, with the greatest of ease, O'dell Engineering. Always were able to get me what I wanted.
 
I shot hundreds of rounds with my Scout 308. Never broke anything, don't expect anything to break hundred more rounds down the line.

I've been to the factory last November and met Oliver Bauer there. I bought him some maple syrup and he liked it.

I also met Col. Cooper's daughter in January. She told me about her Austrian hunting trip.

My opinion is 100% biased, I also have a SSG08 and a HS50M1.
 
Very cool rifle, I'm a fan of the scout concept / forward mounted scope, shorter length, light weight, do anything thing. So instead of the Steyr, I bought the just as good, less expensive and more readily available Tikka T3 Battue in .308. Added a couple five round mags, a 1-6x 30mm optic mounted in Warne QD rings into the Tikka receiver with the cool keyhole feature (Take em off in seconds, put em back and you're still zero'd).

Voila. A great scout rifle with versatility. Cheers.
 
Candocad said:
The only drawback with owning a Steyr is the same drawback as owning a Sako or a Beretta, namely the joy of dealing with North Sylva. (Actually, you don't deal with them, they deal only with dealers, which appears to be a one way street.) A lot of folk own Beretta's / Sako's and Steyr's and for a very good reason, they are quality items.

I used a Steyr Scout for about 5 years as my main hunting rifle in Europe, and they are very good as a general rifle. Hard to understand the quality difference until you have say a Ruger and a Steyr side by side. The difference is immediately noticeable, and that is before you shoot them, the difference is only further polarized.

Whilst spares can be a challenge here in Canada, the reality of it they do not require replacement parts often, and thankfully there is a good importer south of the border so spares are available ion that rare occassion.

If you do buy one, try to get everything at once. All the magazines / stock extension spacers etc. Get the lot, you can re-sell what you do not use at a premium due to rarity. Do not try to get them later, it will be pita.

I have a Steyr Elite (ss heavy barrelled version) and I like shooting the rifle a lot. 10 years and no spare parts required to date.

Buy one and enjoy, if you don't the resale value is good too.

Candocad.
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North Sylva is no longer the Steyr importer for Canada.
 
mudgunner49 said:
I've been a bit of a Cooper fan for a number of years, and actually had a lengthy telephone conversation with him back in the Orange Gunsite days, and I've especially been a fan of his scout concept. I've built a couple of "pseudo-scouts" (made length but not weight) and owned a Savage Scout for awhile before it moved on down the road, but really always wanted a Steyr as it was the only factory produced scout approved by the Dean himself.

When they first came out they were unobtainable to a young guy with small kids at about $2200 USD, but now I'm an old(er) guy and the kids are grown I notice them on Gunbroker all day long at $13-1500 USD which makes attainability much more likely.

my question is, who has these and how do you like them?? I'm not looking for a target rifle, got that covered already, I'm looking for a good hunting/general purpose shooting stick.

Your thoughts???

thanks for your time...


blake
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You can not go wrong. I have had one for years and it is my go to rifle for hunting in most cases.

Not sure what people are doing to theirs that they worry about parts availability as I have had zero issues.

Rifles sourced from steyr usa vs steyr Austria are not equal. Keep that in mind when buying
 
Markings, finish quality and availability as parts made by steyr usa. Certain options like the set trigger not available on usa rifles (I tried ordering)

I have had them side by side in various colors/finish from the usa to compare to a couple ones direct from Austrian.
 
Parts are not the same? They won't fit between austrian and usa?

And they specifically make worse finish for steyr USA as opposed to everyone else? I find it hard to believe to be honest.
 
owlowl said:
Parts are not the same? They won't fit between austrian and usa?

And they specifically make worse finish for steyr USA as opposed to everyone else? I find it hard to believe to be honest.
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See for yourself the differences if you don't believe me. As I said, I have had multiple rifles side by side to compare
 
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