STI Ranger II 9mm shooting low

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I just got an STI Ranger II (freaking awesome gun). It shoots very tight groups (all touching holes at 10 yards with 124gr wolf reloaded ammo) and is extremely comfortable in both my large hands and my wife's small hands.

Unfortunately, the pistol seems to be shooting about 4" low at 10 yards and about 10" low at 25 yards. I was reading in a review posted on the STI website that this seems to be a common thing with STI 9mm compact 1911s.
http://media.stiguns.com/USPress/Guns/Mar09-VIP_RangerII-OffDuty/GUNS_0309_VIP-RangerII_OffDuty.pdf

Has anyone else noticed this with their 9mm Ranger II? If so, what did you do?
 
cancer said:
I just got an STI Ranger II (freaking awesome gun). It shoots very tight groups (all touching holes at 10 yards with 124gr wolf reloaded ammo) and is extremely comfortable in both my large hands and my wife's small hands.

Unfortunately, the pistol seems to be shooting about 4" low at 10 yards and about 10" low at 25 yards. I was reading in a review posted on the STI website that this seems to be a common thing with STI 9mm compact 1911s.
http://media.stiguns.com/USPress/Guns/Mar09-VIP_RangerII-OffDuty/GUNS_0309_VIP-RangerII_OffDuty.pdf

Has anyone else noticed this with their 9mm Ranger II? If so, what did you do?
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I bought one last year and I love it. I have owned a number of 1911s including a custom Armco 40 single stack on a Caspian top and bottom (good time...good times) and I lust after my STI 9mm Ranger. Its super comfortable, good weight, short and quick, feeds everything I have feed it and a real tack driver. The only negative (and I knew it would be an issue before I bought it) is the requirement for a plastic tool to take the barrel out of the slide.

Great gun.

O'Kelly's Boys
 
carsmovies said:
Maybe adjustible rear sight?
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considering you've got groupings of below 4" at 10, and 10" at 25... flinching is not your issue. it's recommendable to have adjustable rear sights.

adjusting your rear sights higher will give you higher shots; and adjusting it lower will give you lower shots. this will be the opposite for front sights.

going with consistent ammo helps as well. if you plan to use 147gr... then be consistent on using 147gr all the time. loading your own makes it even better.
 
O'Kelly's Boys said:
I bought one last year and I love it. I have owned a number of 1911s including a custom Armco 40 single stack on a Caspian top and bottom (good time...good times) and I lust after my STI 9mm Ranger. Its super comfortable, good weight, short and quick, feeds everything I have feed it and a real tack driver. The only negative (and I knew it would be an issue before I bought it) is the requirement for a plastic tool to take the barrel out of the slide.

Great gun.

O'Kelly's Boys
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I hear you. But it's really not the end of the world. Overall, because of the tool, I would say stripping is possibly slightly easier.
 
cancer said:
I hear you. But it's really not the end of the world. Overall, because of the tool, I would say stripping is possibly slightly easier.
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Don't get me wrong, I knew exactly what it was before I bought it. For me, it's not how easy or difficult it is. It's the fact that you need a tool, period. But I still love mine, I just accept it for what it is.

And it sits next to my Sig 226... Best of both worlds.

O'Kelly's Boys
 
cancer said:
I just got an STI Ranger II (freaking awesome gun). It shoots very tight groups (all touching holes at 10 yards with 124gr wolf reloaded ammo) and is extremely comfortable in both my large hands and my wife's small hands.

Unfortunately, the pistol seems to be shooting about 4" low at 10 yards and about 10" low at 25 yards. I was reading in a review posted on the STI website that this seems to be a common thing with STI 9mm compact 1911s.
http://media.stiguns.com/USPress/Guns/Mar09-VIP_RangerII-OffDuty/GUNS_0309_VIP-RangerII_OffDuty.pdf

Has anyone else noticed this with their 9mm Ranger II? If so, what did you do?
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FYI... I bought a stock pile of Wolf 124 gr TMJ 9mm that I thought I'd use for IPSC as they are quite accurate out of my M&P9.

I chronied 10 rounds and sadly they averaged 800fps :eek:. I was told Wolf reloads to IPSC standards???? Looks like I'll be reloading my own with 145gr and TG powder for the Provincials

Anyway... if your Wolf ammo is shooting at that speed it maybe the resaon for it shooting low. I find that I have to cover the black with my front sights at 20 yards to hit the black or I'd be shooting low as well with my M&P9.
 
The ROC said:
FYI... I bought a stock pile of Wolf 124 gr TMJ 9mm that I thought I'd use for IPSC as they are quite accurate out of my M&P9.

I chronied 10 rounds and sadly they averaged 800fps :eek:. I was told Wolf reloads to IPSC standards???? Looks like I'll be reloading my own with 145gr and TG powder for the Provincials

Anyway... if your Wolf ammo is shooting at that speed it maybe the resaon for it shooting low. I find that I have to cover the black with my front sights at 20 yards to hit the black or I'd be shooting low as well with my M&P9.
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Interesting. Yeah, you hear from quite a few people that they use wolf reloads for IPSC, so it is strange that they'd be traveling so (relatively) slow.

I should mention that I've also purchased 40SW and 45ACP from wolf and those were bang on target. The 45ACP in particular being a fantastic load. Maybe it is just the ammo.
 
I sure hear this a lot lately....new pistol shooting low.

Could it be that manufacturers are no longer zeroing pistols with a traditional 6 o'clock hold but rather with an 'action shooting' cover the bull hold?

Both my Shadows are the same - 6 o'clock hold they shoot low but cover the A and they are dead on!

John
 
John in B.C. said:
I sure hear this a lot lately....new pistol shooting low.

Could it be that manufacturers are no longer zeroing pistols with a traditional 6 o'clock hold but rather with an 'action shooting' cover the bull hold?

Both my Shadows are the same - 6 o'clock hold they shoot low but cover the A and they are dead on!

John
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I don't really know too many shooters using a 6 hold anymore. Then again, not too many paper punchers in my crowd. :) My new shadow came setup point of aim. Shots fall right on top of the front sight. I level the sights across the shoulders of a classic IPSC target and it's a perfect centre A every time I do my part right. Love it!
 
John in B.C. said:
Do the shots hit under the FO or on top of the front sight?
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The FO acts just like a red-dot. By "right on top" I meant superimposed, or the shot and dot right on top of each other. A couple of weeks ago an open shooter I was squaded with commented that my FO looked brighter than his red-dot. He could see it from where he was standing beside the score keeper.

edit: In the heat of a match, the front sight blade almost fades away. All I focus on is the FO dot. It's very much like shooting a red-dot scope.

edit 2: Getting back to the original question, a shorter front sounds like the answer. Just make sure the pistol is well broken in before you start changing stuff. Lots can change in the fist 1000 rounds.
 
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