STI Tactical 5.0, STI Duty One and STI Edge, opinions and Qs..

There is nothing wrong with STI. The guns are top notch as is the customer service. No STI I have owned has been unreliable and all have been super accurate. I have owned many 1911's, Kimber, Colt, a Wilson, custom builds and I prefer the STI's I have owned. The 9mm Trojan I owned was simply the most accurate handgun I have ever owned and never ever had a reliability issue. One thing to remember is that for many years, STI's primary focus has been the competition market, Ken Hakathorns comment is not out to lunch based on that, but since the company was employee purchased, the focus has been more towards the self defence market and they have done a bang up job on thier, guns. Yesterday I received an STI Lawman and I can say just based on what I have seen here this is just as good as any 1911 I have seen for fit and feel, Sunday range time will be the ultimate test. Ken's opinion is bias as far as I am concerned as he is a huge Wilson supporter, he is very good at what he does, but he is one writer, STI's quality and reliability speaks for itself and that is all you need to consider when buying one.
 
Misanthropist, have you ever seen my STI Edge have a single failure of any kind? I shot 1500 rounds of my handloads over two days with the Todd Green FAST class and again no problem. Unreliable guns are more a reflection of the owner these days, not the gun. Just my experience and opinion.
 
No, I don't recall ever seeing it malfunction - not that I was looking although obviously if you say it didn't I'm sure it didn't.

But let's be realistic here...there is no question that double stack 1911s are, ON AVERAGE, less reliable than single stack ones.

If a buyer is not looking for the absolute best bet in a reliable 1911, and is willing to take a bit of a chance, then I would say absolutely, they should get whatever they like.

But if someone says to me, "I'm looking at fullsize 1911s with a rail in the pattern of a fighting gun" then my tendency is to say, "if you want a fighting gun, I would look at proven fighting guns".

If that buyer just wants a gun in that general style I would not necessarily steer them away from an STI or a double stack. But I wouldn't ever say they're equally reliable, either. On average, they just aren't.
 
Reality of where I live is well,,, you can't just go out to a local range and find someone that has brand "x" to just try out, simply not enough population. So therefore in consideration as to the "unknown" I'm trying a Duty One STI as said with Amrco tune job, see how that goes. My first STI handgun so it will at least be interesting to try. I went with single stack as all my previous 1911s in single stack were for sure reliable and also very COMFORTABLE in hand which is very important to me. I thank you all for your advice and thoughts for sure, it certainly helped! :) Some day when I can see and feel a DS STI in hand, I will and am curious to the feel, fit of them for now I'll play safe. THX!

Shawn
 
Was your Ranger II a 40S&W?
Yeah, the .40 is still the turd, despite 3 trips back to the importer and a trip - with a dramatic improvement - to RK, but even the .45 didn't work worth a damn until I installed a Wilson extractor.

Maybe they were both made on a Monday.

Misanthropist, have you ever seen my STI Edge have a single failure of any kind? I shot 1500 rounds of my handloads over two days with the Todd Green FAST class and again no problem. Unreliable guns are more a reflection of the owner these days, not the gun. Just my experience and opinion.

Conventional CGN wisdom holds that Paras suck and STI rules, and I've no doubt that you subscribe to that belief.
My P16-40LTD has been and continues to be reliable, and my Ranger IIs have not been.
But, then again, I'm sure you would say it is "...more a reflection of the owner these days, not the gun.":rolleyes:
 
Misanthropist, have you ever seen my STI Edge have a single failure of any kind? I shot 1500 rounds of my handloads over two days with the Todd Green FAST class and again no problem. Unreliable guns are more a reflection of the owner these days, not the gun. Just my experience and opinion.

I got a brand new STI EDGE, for $2300 It shot 1 FOOT low at 5 yards and a good 6" off to the left, because for $2300 nobody bothers to set up the sights. It wont feed case guaged reloads reliably because Apparently Im supposed to get the factory barrel honed out, which kid of defeats the $2300 match grade barrel doesnt it? It feeds new winclean just fine, but everything else is a jamomatic. Oh, theres even instructions online on how to check your factory extractor if your new $2300 STI EDGE wont remove the cases, because, once again this is something you should do, its not included in a $2300 Guns assembly procedure...Now everyone asks if Ive upgraded to the Aftek Extractor, to which I reply for $2300 the fking thing should at least pull the brand new brass out of the unhoned Match grade Fking barrel after I spend half a day sighting the fking $2300 gun in wondering when my $80 mags would start to Fck up so I can determine which is my dedicated stripper mag... AND NOW IPSC HAS A CLASSIC DIVISION after I sold my single stack Colt to help pay for this double stacked over priced monstrosity.
Go Look at the Book that comes with a $300 Norinco 1911. Oh...Wait...there is no Book with a $300 Norinco. Thats RIGHT the 8 Year old enslaved Chinese Kit that built it sighted it in for you, and It shoots reliably.
I dunno, I wish Id gotten a sig X5 and spent the money I saved on Mags...that feed reliably.
 
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Ill sell you my rare para then.... it fires every time. I also have a rare Ford that never breaks down, any chance anyone wants to buy that.

Why would you want to sell it then? On the Ford, well not the same thing, Ford unlike Para has done nothing but climb in quality were Para has just seemed to of gone way down hill.

Regardless, the topic is STI, and STI deserves far more credit then the quote made by Ken Hakathorn and the credit that is given to them not only here, but on other forums says it all.
 
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