Still shooting to high with low rings

ironsite

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Hey folks,
I picked up a new scope for my milsurp Swiss K31. I got the Swiss "no gun smith" scope mount base and a set of low Millet rings. At the range yesterday my P.O.I. is still 4+ above the bulls eye at 100 meters with the scope adjusted all the way down. The grouping is excellent, but does anyone have a suggestion on how I could fix it without just using only my mill dots to correct the problem.
Thanks.
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Maybe you can use a 20MOA rail adapter sort or like this:

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Or a 20MOA scope mount.
 
From what I understand is if you need more upwards elevation you raise the rear of the scope so if you need more downward elevation you would lower the rear of raise the front.
 
Rode said:
nope
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Yep. Draw yourself a picture, you'll remember it better if you cypher it out for yourself. Or you could just consider that a 20 MOA rail is lower in the front to make the rifle shoot higher. The OPs problem is his rifle is already shooting too high.

Alternately you can consider that the rear base acts like a rear sight, and the front base acts like a front sight. You move the rear the way you want the bullet to go and the front the opposite way .
 
Think of it this way.... If you raise the base up front the scope will be pointing at a higher spot on the target.... in order to put it on the desired point of impact you will then have to lower the reticle, which means you are lowering the muzzle at the same time....
 
okay, So I had originally put a Redfield 3x9 Revolution scope on the rifle but the front edge of the scope made contact with the rear sight base which would cause the scope to go out of adjustment with the recoil. I saw a Bushnell Dusk to dawn 6-24 on sale which put the front of the optic past the ironsight rear base hopefully solving the problem. Unfortunately it caused this new problem.
Someone at the local gun shop suggested putting a shim of brass between the rear scope ring and the scope thus allowing the back of the scope to raise up and bring the front down and into alignment. any thoughts?
 
Any thoughts?

Sure, your gun counter guy has it backwards too. It's the front ring that would be shimmed. Why don't you get a set of Burris insert rings with offset inserts? There's 20 MOA of correction that doesn't involve shimming.
 
Dogleg your right. Sorry about that. The guy in the store said that but your right. I will go back and see if they carry the Burris rings.
Thanks
 
ironsite said:
okay, So I had originally put a Redfield 3x9 Revolution scope on the rifle but the front edge of the scope made contact with the rear sight base which would cause the scope to go out of adjustment with the recoil. I saw a Bushnell Dusk to dawn 6-24 on sale which put the front of the optic past the ironsight rear base hopefully solving the problem. Unfortunately it caused this new problem.
Someone at the local gun shop suggested putting a shim of brass between the rear scope ring and the scope thus allowing the back of the scope to raise up and bring the front down and into alignment. any thoughts?
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Your 6-24 only has 36" of adjustment at 100 yards....that's part of the problem with high magnification scopes. Burris rings with offset inserts, or a new scope would be the solution...
Banner 6-24x 40mm - Mil Dot
Power/Obj Lens: 6-24x 40mm
Reticle: Mil-Dot
Lens Coating: DDB Multi-Coated
RainGuard HD: No
Tube Diameter: 1"
Field of View: ft@100yds/m@100m
17/5.7@6x / 5/1.7@24x
Weight: oz/gr
19.6/556
Length: in/mm
16.1/409
Eye Relief: in/mm
3.4/86
Exit Pupil: mm
6.7@6x / 1.7@24x
Click Value: in.@100yds/mm@100m
.25/7
Adj Range: in.@100yds/mm@100m
36/1.0
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So I fixed the problem. Mounted the scope on a new set of Millet low profiles rings (no Burris available) and shimmed the "rear scope ring" with two pieces of paper and the damn thing shots dead on.
Go figure.
 
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