still wanting to get into idpa

Tuco Pike said:
No. One only needs to use common sense to be holster qualified. Unfortunately people can't be taken at their words anymore so there needs to be someone willing to "sign on the dotted line" that they have seen you draw and reholster many times without you shooting yourself or someone else. It is a club thing, so they can feel all warm and fuzzy that someone told you not to put your finger on the trigger when you are reholstering your gun (alla the guy out west at an IDPA match and the cop right here in Toronto at the Police College showing new recruits what NOT to do, with an excellent visual). I don't even think you need a Black Badge to shoot IPSC in the US, I could be wrong though.
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I agree with the point you're making, but should also make a point myself. No one person "signing on the dotted line" guarantees safety....not for any shooter. The only thing that can provide a reasonable assurance of safety is the shooter's eternal vigilance towards safe firearms handling and the 4 fundamentals.

The attitude that someone has been certified needs to be weened out IMO....you cannot certify someone safe, you can only attest that someone was able to demonstrate safety in a limited capacity in a limited time. Some people, I swear, leave the holster course (apparently qualified) and forget everything that was taught.

PeterPan said:
I agree with you. We don't have ' gun culture' in Canada. Target pistol shooting is like a taboo, we are not going out and tell everyone about it.
Thus we need to have some sort of program for beginners. I like the idea of BB, it is well design course, but also I think that those who are serious about IDPA or IPSC should seek a training before BB or any shooting.
More time spend with a trainer is better for novice shooter.
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PeterPan is right here. I highly recommend online training and dry fire practice long before even thinking of a holster course (BB has a general requirement of 1 year I think). Every participant should also be well aware of how their firearm functions and how to operate it properly (including jams). The BB and IDPA NSO course are not really designed to teach brand new people who are interested in action shooting. There are more designed to teach experienced shooters about the special safety concerns one must observe with action shooting.
 
albertacoyotecaller said:
And what trainers are in the system?
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Good question.
I think trainer is someone who can explain dynamics of shooting and show basics for accurate shooting. Not fast, just accurate and not from more then 10m.
When I help "new guy", first thing I do is explaining that there is nothing wrong with not knowing how the gun shoots and all the Hollywood image has got nothing to do with safe and accurate shooting.
Then we go to basic operations of handgun, I repeat many, many times:
finger only on the trigger when shooting.
Stance, grip, sight focus or target acquisition is next.
If I am happy, we move to the trigger and I explain what works for me, with trigger pull.
Then we move to life fire, with only one round, then we increase.

When I got into handguns, no one help me. No one showed me anything, I learnt on my own. It was hard way, and expensive way, but now when I fill bit comfortable I like to help my friends, and whoever is interested.
 
albertacoyotecaller said:
Well that is good for you Peter. Magically I am no longer qualified to teach people any of that by IDPA standards.

Greg
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aren't you the guy that has taken like 10 different tactical response courses ?? after all of that training why would anyone say your not qualified to teach a simple "holster" course ?
 
You can be in Scarburough and make it to EESA in about two hours. I've driven a lot farther to get a lot less... It's really not that bad a drive. It just depends on what time of day you try to cross Toronto...

I'm sure the NSO at EESA will be very through and well executed.
 
There will certainly be an open course coming up soon, even at Orono I would think now that Orono is IDPA affiliated, so all matches and practices are (by requirement) open to all IDPA members.
 
It was decided last night after speaking with the IDPA club contacts that we will be doing an NSO at Orono on Saturday Nov. 27th starting at 9am. Anyone that is interested, please send me a PM and any SO's that are interested in assisting also please send me PM.

Thanks Steve
 
Anthrax said:
You can be in Scarburough and make it to EESA in about two hours. I've driven a lot farther to get a lot less... It's really not that bad a drive. It just depends on what time of day you try to cross Toronto...

I'm sure the NSO at EESA will be very through and well executed.
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Hey Anthrax, Spell Rondeau correctly will ya!
 
Anthrax,
NSOC at Rondeau Rod and Gun Club, Sunday November 28th. 9AM start. Cost $5.00 for course, $5.00 for Classifier afterwards (optional). PM me if you want in or see me Wed if you're coming out.
Jim.
 
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