M1, M1 carbine, M14 & Mini14 all use a different type of gas system to operate the action, lock up is essentially the same. Think of the op-rod as a the bolt carrier as it serves the same function, rotate the bolt in and out of the locked position using a caming action.
Stirring the pot with the butt of an SVT 40
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M1, M1 carbine, M14 & Mini14 all use a different type of gas system to operate the action, lock up is essentially the same. Think of the op-rod as a the bolt carrier as it serves the same function, rotate the bolt in and out of the locked position using a caming action.
I personally like the AG42B over the M1. Though I use only one brand of hunting ammo and it's been said that the military ammo didn't do well in them.
While I personally love the M1, I have never really saw the reason for the hype with them other than being "THE All American rifle"......invented by a canadian...
While I personally love the M1, I have never really saw the reason for the hype with them other than being "THE All American rifle"......invented by a canadian...
thebuckhunter
CGN frequent flyer
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I agree with Ljungman. The AG42b is much simpler, although the sights on an M1 are better, the 6.5x55 is definitely a more accurate round. Too bad the Swedes never really perfected the sights.
-Jason
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The Germans lost the War, and mostly due to 2/3rds of their forces bogged down on the Russian front.
Most of the famed kills you talk about where from Artillery, and bombing, and from a long way away, also from starving the non-combatants in the cities to death.
The efforts of the Russians saved allot of British, Canadian, and American lives.
I wouldn't discount their abilities as a fighting nation based on one type of rifle that had less then stellar abilities.
That would be like saying Canada sucked as we lost allot of troops, and oh we had the Ross rifle.
Well, the Ross rifle DID cause alot of Canadian deaths. After Ypres, many of the dead Canadians recovered for burrial were found with their boot heels still touching the ross bolt where they were trying to kick open the jammed action when they were shot/bayonetted.
The SVT-40 was never an unreliable weapon until you introduced corrosive ammo and put hte whole affair into the hands of a peasant Kulak conscript with only 48 hours of training, none of which explained how to maintain, disassemble or clean the SVT40.
Look at it this way, if the US had issued ammo as corrosive as WW2 54R was and then never trained their troops how to clean, maintain and oil the M1, how fondly would we think of that rifle today? I think not very. I've seen M1's seized SOLID in Canada back when Districorp sold the mcheap b/c guys were firing the corrosive '06 Korean ball in them that was floating around back then and only cleaning the barrels. Guess what? The op-rod WILL rust into the cylinder such that the rifle becomes a single-shot. I don't recommend you try it for yourself though given the cost of an M1 these days...
The SVT-40 was never an unreliable weapon until you introduced corrosive ammo and put hte whole affair into the hands of a peasant Kulak conscript with only 48 hours of training, none of which explained how to maintain, disassemble or clean the SVT40.
Look at it this way, if the US had issued ammo as corrosive as WW2 54R was and then never trained their troops how to clean, maintain and oil the M1, how fondly would we think of that rifle today? I think not very. I've seen M1's seized SOLID in Canada back when Districorp sold the mcheap b/c guys were firing the corrosive '06 Korean ball in them that was floating around back then and only cleaning the barrels. Guess what? The op-rod WILL rust into the cylinder such that the rifle becomes a single-shot. I don't recommend you try it for yourself though given the cost of an M1 these days...
And PS: The Ljungman!?! Are you freaking kidding me?!? You guys would rather have a gun known for slam-fires and grenading (unless conditions were perfect and ammo specially selected) over rifles that have never been known to catastrophically fail. Smart - real smart. Methinks the Ljungman fans in this thread have never even HELD an SVT or M1.
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Personally, I would take the SIG-259r over the Garand
Forty4Forty
Regular
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- Saskatoon, Saskatchewan
Have you dismantled a SVT?
, rather clean a Garand in the field, like both.
, rather clean a Garand in the field, like both.Have you dismantled a SVT?
Once, looks and feels an awful lot like my SKS for the most part.
The Germans lost the War, and mostly due to 2/3rds of their forces bogged down on the Russian front.
Its hard work slaughtering garbage troops 10/1
Non-combatants are not counted
Its 10/1 on the soldiers. If we put civilians in there is even higher. And the germans dint starve any commies, Stalin did that.And pushed alot of europe into communist rule.
And also allowed Stalin to kill approximately 20 million, including up to 14.5 million needlessly starved to death. At least one million executed for political "offences". At least 9.5 million more deported, exiled or imprisoned in work camps, with many of the estimated five million sent to the 'Gulag Archipelago' never returning alive. Other estimates place the number of deported at 28 million, including 18 million sent to the 'Gulag'.
We agree. SVT = inferior rifle, dint need the rest of your post.
We dint lose our people at a 10/1 ratio.
