Stoeger Tactical Coach Gun
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Personal defense be it animal or human with a double gun is optimistic at best. This is an answer to a question that has never been asked. I doubt this setup would be accepted in the Cowboy action leagues either.TDC
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Folks can use whatever they like, but double guns have been used in the dangerous game hunting and protection role for 200 years, and for good reason. They provide the redundancy of two independent firearms, and nothing is as fast for the second shot, although I personally disapprove of the single trigger on this particular model.
Anyone who has ever needed to address a bear problem in the dark can appreciate a mounting point for a flashlight. As for the reluctance to mount optics on a double, I might agree had I never had the opportunity to look through a Trijicon Reflex Sight. The rail would also be a good way to mount a ghost ring rear sight provided that a higher front sight was installed.
The Sicilians found that a very short double worked quite well in the antipersonnel role, and it became so popular that they even gave it a name, Lupara (wolf shot) referring to its hunting origin; although the urban Lupara was more often found sans butt stock. Some folks prefer the double today because repeaters by design must be 4"-6" longer regardless of barrel length, to allow for the length of the receiver. The urban dweller who has minimal interest in firearms or shooting but who has become fearful of criminal violence, might find the benign appearance and simple operation of the double as just the ticket.
That about sums it up boomer.
Personally, I think without the rails, that's one bad ass looking double! I love the black stock with the park'd/matte finish. I think it looks great.
And for the guys requesting shorter barrels, one has to remember there is no receiver to add length to the gun. They are actually very short and well manipulated.
Personally, I think without the rails, that's one bad ass looking double! I love the black stock with the park'd/matte finish. I think it looks great.
And for the guys requesting shorter barrels, one has to remember there is no receiver to add length to the gun. They are actually very short and well manipulated.
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- Hillbilly shack in the boonies
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FhgwHQCJwWw
People need to recognize reality. For the US market this will indeed sell half decently I suspect. For those who take home-defence seriously this is a good choice, better than an exceedingly expensive, potentially overly complicated semi, that takes longer to load, and runs the chance of jamming with a lighter load like birdshot (not that anyone here I am sure would ever contemplate using a light load inside a house for home defence, when 3inch mag slugs are handy...).
For home defence you have an easy to use, highly user friendly system, and for people who like the Thunder Ranch/Gunsite schools of thought a light attachment point, and maybe even a reddot.
This product is not aimed at bird hunters, but hey, with a nice reddot or even an iron sight there would be nothing wrong with it as a close in bird/deer/turkey gun, even if it doesn't fit into the Canadian model as some on here see it.
Once again old men, welcome to a reality other than your own
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- land of f-cktards
........sorry but i would complain about that with the same descretion as i would complain about wood paneling on a camaro
Are you on crack? We're talking about areas where people know their #### and actually work with animals that will kill you without provocation. I don't mean a teddy bear, but a rhino, hippo or lion. And if you think the bolt gun is the weapon of choice, your living in a "I own a boltgun and it's the greatest thing since sliced bread" private world.
SXS rifles are ideal for dangerous game simply because a follow up shot(one!) is only a trigger squeeze away. I dont know of any semi auto rifle that is offered in a dangerous came calibre which is why you don't see them in use. Keep in mind that you are actively hunting dangerous game on your terms for the most part. Investigating a noise in the middle of the night is not hunting.
We're also discussing a SXS shotgun, not a dangerous game rifle, so the comparison is of little merit. Pump shotguns can be had for as little as $200 new, and less if you buy used. Why limit yourself to two rounds when there are far better choices?
The video Dosing posted clearly illustrates the advantage gained by running a pump gun or a semi. I fully agree, that you must work with what you have. However, if you have the option of purchasing a pump or semi over the SXS its a no brainer. The important part of the video was the statement at the end "I don't need a $1000 shotgun, I need to know how to run the gun I've got." Its called training, and its what makes the difference. That being said, it is only wise to choose the most approriate gear for the task and the training to go with.
TDC
We're also discussing a SXS shotgun, not a dangerous game rifle, so the comparison is of little merit. Pump shotguns can be had for as little as $200 new, and less if you buy used. Why limit yourself to two rounds when there are far better choices?
The video Dosing posted clearly illustrates the advantage gained by running a pump gun or a semi. I fully agree, that you must work with what you have. However, if you have the option of purchasing a pump or semi over the SXS its a no brainer. The important part of the video was the statement at the end "I don't need a $1000 shotgun, I need to know how to run the gun I've got." Its called training, and its what makes the difference. That being said, it is only wise to choose the most approriate gear for the task and the training to go with.
TDC
Plus a double rifle rarely malfunction (never can jam) and most shot were taken well under 100 yards ( I also think their express leaf sight is a symbol more than functionality because how often those guys shoot more than a 100 yards at an elephant or a cape buffalo?)
That's why you will see the professional hunter (guide) carries a double rifle for the sake of his client's safety as well as his own.
Charged by a wounded lion or rhino is not fun.
One final thought on the issue as it applies to Home Defence, and the reason they actually do sell half decent numbers of these guns to folks down south, is ease of use. Even if your partner-family etc isn't a gunnut(s), you can easily teach them break-load-close-fire, especially if it isnt two triggers, or external hammers, in which case pretty much anyone can use it in a pinch. I know I can teach a chimp how to use a SXS with no hammers in an emergency, how to use a semi, plus clear a jam etc, not so likely.
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