Exactly right. When a licensed owner breaks the law and gets caught it supports a belief that we cannot and should not be trusted to own firearms. What exacerbates the problem is when other gun owners flock to publicly-accessible sites like this one to defend the guy and dismiss his illegal acts.
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Contrary to the script-like allegation, nobody praised or excused this. Now that the condemnation circus has had its pound of flesh maybe we can move on. I don't know what's worse- a fkd up law or the automated responses competing head to head with the most virulent SJWs for the most hair pulling 'outrage'.
Whether it was this dude in Cochrane, the cop in Calgary, or the game warden in NB that forgot their firearms in their vehicles and had them stolen, nobody is defending them, and yes they did brake the law, but it was a mistake that I'm sure they regret. The way some portray this infraction of the firearms law, with the what if's and the suspicion of's, and the I bet's, you'd think they were selling weapons grade plutonium to ISIS in Iraq. Sound like a bunch of old women at a bridge game.
The only thing that sways public opinion against gun owners is the anti gun media like the CBC and other news networks that blow things all out of proportion, news media today is like reality TV, anything for the ratings I guess. Most of the general public don't even know about these incidents, and most of them could care a less.
The only thing that sways public opinion against gun owners is the anti gun media like the CBC and other news networks that blow things all out of proportion, news media today is like reality TV, anything for the ratings I guess. Most of the general public don't even know about these incidents, and most of them could care a less.
Unfortunately because of the proliferation of very vociferous "more regulation is better" stereotype in the Canadian firearms owners community we will never get rid of c68.
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I'm just gonna throw something into the mix, here.
This thread is stupid enough, already. So just mull this over, for a hypothesis......
I'll go right stupid, to keep with the feel of the thread, but let's for the purpose of this exercise say that the word "homicide" is completely interchangeable with any of hundreds of other criminal acts that could be committed with a revolver whether by intent or negligence.
The scenario goes like this........
Commit homicide; dump firearm in Bow River at remote location; go tell the feds how your firearm was stolen; throw in some filler to let yourself be charged for a much lesser offence (willingly) to try and throw diversion from what really happened; no witnesses - imagine that.
Anyone, including the feds that "gave dude a break since he came forth willingly", needs to give their head a shake for thinking that lenience is a good idea. Even if the story is legit, for all those that even feel that any leniency should be granted, just think what the worst possible scenario could be, resultant of the "thief" now in possession of the firearm.
And just to be clear, I am speaking as someone who has just cleared a lengthy firearms prohibition (I told the TRUTH at court, and actually plead guilty, took my lumps like a man). Has been convicted and jailed for what my beliefs and values are about firearm ownership, because I stand by those beliefs, steadfast. I've been deemed as a threat to the National Security of The USA (and a couple of other countries), for sticking to those beliefs. I DON'T mention this because I am proud of these things, but they make me who I am today. I lived my life full well knowing the potential consequences of my actions, and when the time came to pay, I didn't whine or lie. While the feds were "lenient" with me, that only seemed to fuel deeper criminal intent within. I also happen to be over 10 years clean and sober of everything, and a 10 year clean driving record. Accepting consequences (when they brought down the hammer), sometimes can be a good lesson.
Ignorance is no excuse, for those who cited that he "may not know current laws". IMHO, he should be charged with whatever they can, he broke the law. As should anyone else who maybe "forgot" to do what they should have. The potential consequences to others, could be severe.
So, since it seems to be the theme of this thread, feel free to bash on me now, for my opinions.
This thread is stupid enough, already. So just mull this over, for a hypothesis......
I'll go right stupid, to keep with the feel of the thread, but let's for the purpose of this exercise say that the word "homicide" is completely interchangeable with any of hundreds of other criminal acts that could be committed with a revolver whether by intent or negligence.
The scenario goes like this........
Commit homicide; dump firearm in Bow River at remote location; go tell the feds how your firearm was stolen; throw in some filler to let yourself be charged for a much lesser offence (willingly) to try and throw diversion from what really happened; no witnesses - imagine that.
Anyone, including the feds that "gave dude a break since he came forth willingly", needs to give their head a shake for thinking that lenience is a good idea. Even if the story is legit, for all those that even feel that any leniency should be granted, just think what the worst possible scenario could be, resultant of the "thief" now in possession of the firearm.
And just to be clear, I am speaking as someone who has just cleared a lengthy firearms prohibition (I told the TRUTH at court, and actually plead guilty, took my lumps like a man). Has been convicted and jailed for what my beliefs and values are about firearm ownership, because I stand by those beliefs, steadfast. I've been deemed as a threat to the National Security of The USA (and a couple of other countries), for sticking to those beliefs. I DON'T mention this because I am proud of these things, but they make me who I am today. I lived my life full well knowing the potential consequences of my actions, and when the time came to pay, I didn't whine or lie. While the feds were "lenient" with me, that only seemed to fuel deeper criminal intent within. I also happen to be over 10 years clean and sober of everything, and a 10 year clean driving record. Accepting consequences (when they brought down the hammer), sometimes can be a good lesson.
Ignorance is no excuse, for those who cited that he "may not know current laws". IMHO, he should be charged with whatever they can, he broke the law. As should anyone else who maybe "forgot" to do what they should have. The potential consequences to others, could be severe.
So, since it seems to be the theme of this thread, feel free to bash on me now, for my opinions.
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No problem, my intro thread was kinda boring.
The guy in this story should have kept a non restricted for a truck gun instead of a revolver . Fewer storage restrictions , no registration of the firearm to account for so no one even knows that you own the firearm , and a shorty shotgun takes up very little space .
Yeah, and when people see the guys at a clay bird range drinking, that supports a belief we're all drunks with guns that cannot and should not be trusted to own firearms.
Then there's the gunner that gets caught with more ducks or pheasants than the limit allows. That supports a belief that we're not only drunks with guns, but also nothing but a bunch of poachers.
Handgun or shotgun, we're simply not trustworthy, because as a grip that numbers in the millions, we fall so far short of achieving perfection.
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I honestly don't have strong feelings about people following laws or not. The fact that someone "broke a law" in and of itself means very little to me.
But if you, through your own stupidity, end up arming a criminal...you're part of the problem. Take reasonable steps to prevent your guns from getting ripped off. That gun will now be traded to a drug dealer, and when it's recovered later after a shooting, it's going to be one more gun on the list of "guns legally bought in Canada that were used in a crime".
I frankly don't care if people use trigger locks or have a current ATT...neither of those have any practical effect on reducing the number of guns held by criminals.
But don't be a ####ing dumbass and leave your loaded gun in some place really ####ing easy to steal from.
But if you, through your own stupidity, end up arming a criminal...you're part of the problem. Take reasonable steps to prevent your guns from getting ripped off. That gun will now be traded to a drug dealer, and when it's recovered later after a shooting, it's going to be one more gun on the list of "guns legally bought in Canada that were used in a crime".
I frankly don't care if people use trigger locks or have a current ATT...neither of those have any practical effect on reducing the number of guns held by criminals.
But don't be a ####ing dumbass and leave your loaded gun in some place really ####ing easy to steal from.
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