Stolen revolver and heirloom

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Stolen revolver and heirloom - FOUND!!!

Lethbridge AB

So I go through the hoops and get my Restricted to have a couple of family heirlooms handed down. Mum dug them out to get the serial numbers for Mirimichi and coincidentally, a couple of family members just happened to arrive at the door. Two guns pinched from the table while Mum was in the other room.

Please be on the alert for a S&W Model 1, Mk 2 .455 revolver (ser 34699) and a German made 6mm rimfire known as a Parlour Gun or Flobert pistol (ser Q537). Police involved. REWARD for return. Neither carries any significant dollar value due to age and model, but both have a significant family history.

Please drop me a PM if anything catches your attention or contpact Lethbridge Police Service.
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Both firearms recovered!

Jump ahead a couple years and the firearms have finally made their way into my possession. Both firearms were turned in to the Lethbridge PD, by none other than one of the two suspected family members mentioned in the original post. No charges laid by the PD, no surprise. I heard the BS story that the pistols were found in a box of clothing in the bottom of a dresser. Interestingly, the same individual forged cheques with mom's signature, even dressed up as my mother to make bank withdrawals while mom was in the hospital. Over $40,000 in forged cheques. The bank had this person on camera even dressed as mom cashing the cheques in person at the counter. And again, no charges pursued by the Lethbridge PD. WTF???

But the drama continued.

So I get the call from Lethbridge PD that the firearms are in their possession and I may pick them up at my convenience. I called the firearms office to get transport permits as these are both Restricted category. Next thing I know I am being contacted by the RCMP facing charges of attempting to register stolen firearms. When I first heard this I dropped the phone and started laughing. One office does not communicate with the other apparently. What a gong show sorting that one out. Got a visit from local RCMP and these guys were great. They had a laugh with me over the stupidity within the overall system and acknowledged that someone in the firearms office should have caught this before sending police after me. Interesting how the powers that be were quick to pursue charges against me yet did nothing to the unlicensed family member that had these firearms for so long.

I am happy the firearms are in my possession. Silver linings. And a glass raised to the forum members that actually read the original post before condemning either me or my mother. Cheers!
 
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Just a bunch of plain old trailer trash grubbing for money or anything else they can get their hands on to support their drug habits or pay their rent. I am still waiting for God to get angry and drop a tornado on them.
 
Duncan Idaho said:
Lethbridge AB

So I go through the hoops and get my Restricted to have a couple of family heirlooms handed down. Mum dug them out to get the serial numbers for Mirimichi and coincidentally, a couple of family members just happened to arrive at the door. Two guns pinched from the table while Mum was in the other room.
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Duncan Idaho said:
Just a bunch of plain old trailer trash grubbing for money or anything else they can get their hands on to support their drug habits or pay their rent. I am still waiting for God to get angry and drop a tornado on them.
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Err... so, if you know they're a bunch of druggies and thieves, why did you leave them alone with improperly stored firearms? The story kind of sounds illogical.

I'll tell you a little secret... knowing what we know from past experiences reported in the media, many of us on these forums will be very surprised if you and/or your mother don't get charged criminally for unsafe storage of firearms sometime real soon. After all, had the guns been safely stored or at least supervised properly, none of this would've happened. Also, let's not forget that we're talking about restricted firearms, which have much stricter storage rules (stored in a cabinet + trigger locked when not supervised by owner).

Anyway... good luck to you. I hope you get your guns back and that the local crown prosecutor is on vacation this month.

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Geez, when I first read your post I'd understood that the guns were stolen by an unseen thief while your mother was greeting your family members. This is so much worse!

Since you know who took'em, can't you just go after them?

Hope your heirlooms find their was back to you.
 
Thats a sickening display of dishonest to the full degree. That is a terrible thing to be going through man, I hope it all works out. Offer them some cash to get your guns back, then beat the shat out of them when they hand them over. Then let the police deal with them

Obviously dont kick the sh*t out of them, as those idiots will likely charge you for assualt (seems how they stole from you).
 
A little confusing...hope it works out for you but leaving handguns out when drug thug relatives come to the door just isn't a good idea? Were you at the house when it happened, or just your mom? If you were both there, seems like asking for trouble, I would have locked up them back up right away, I mean it takes seconds to put in a locked case, you could quickly do it before answering the door...
 
Hind-sight is always 20/20. I hope things work out for you. Bet this will never happen again. I had a handgun stolen from me years ago. I recovered it myself, after reporting it stolen. I drug the thief and the firearm to the nearest copshop. I never did get charged with anything, and the thief got an extra 7 days in jail on top of his drug charges. Buy a damn good safe.
 
red magnum said:
$hitty deal, hope everything works out for you.

As for the people giving him the gears, unlike yourselves we don't all have perfect hindsight. Thanks capt'n obvious.
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Hindsight? Try common-sense!

If you leave a $100 bill in front of a group of starving heroin addicts, don't be crying if it goes missing when you turn your back for a few minutes. Once again, it's a question of extremely obvious common sense! Anyone who lacks it to that degree should seriously reconsider whether firearm ownership is a good idea for them... because it might end up being more trouble than it's worth. We have a perfect example of this right in this thread.

Enough said... and I'm sorry if I can't feel too sorry for the guy who leaves a bunch of criminals around his unattended guns, then finds the guns being missing and plays the poor victim. A little very obvious prevention goes a long way! Gun owners like that are the reason why we have those ridiculous gun control & storage laws in the first place (to make up for their lack of common sense). In other words, this case is yet more ammo for the antis! Congrats...

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762mm said:
Hindsight? Try common-sense!

If you leave a $100 bill in front of a group of starving heroin addicts, don't be crying if it goes missing when you turn your back for a few minutes. Once again, it's a question of extremely obvious common sense! Anyone who lacks it to that degree should seriously reconsider whether firearm ownership is a good idea for them... because it might end up being more trouble than it's worth. We have a perfect example of this right in this thread.

Enough said... and I'm sorry if I can't feel too sorry for the guy who leaves a bunch of criminals around his unattended guns, then finds the guns being missing and plays the poor victim. A little very obvious prevention goes a long way! Gun owners like that are the reason why we have those ridiculous gun control & storage laws in the first place (to make up for their lack of common sense). In other words, this case is yet more ammo for the antis! Congrats...

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Wow a lot of assumptions here. First his mother was in possession of the guns not him. His mother is the victim not him and yes just as if someone had kicked in the door and stole them she was robbed. As for an ounce of prevention, how many wives and mothers would handle the situation any different. You dig out the guns so your son can pick them up and while you are waiting for him to arrive, some family drops by and she becomes an unsuspecting victim.
As for this being fuel for the antis I think it is yet another example of us eating our own and you are the one serving her up on a plate. Thanks for your support but hey this is JMHO so have at it drive that knife in a little deeper.
OP good luck on getting our property back and hopefully your mother will not be treated like a criminal by the system.
 
hicaliber said:
Wow a lot of assumptions here. First his mother was in possession of the guns not him. His mother is the victim not him and yes just as if someone had kicked in the door and stole them she was robbed. As for an ounce of prevention, how many wives and mothers would handle the situation any different. You dig out the guns so your son can pick them up and while you are waiting for him to arrive, some family drops by and she becomes an unsuspecting victim.
As for this being fuel for the antis I think it is yet another example of us eating our own and you are the one serving her up on a plate. Thanks for your support but hey this is JMHO so have at it drive that knife in a little deeper.
OP good luck on getting our property back and hopefully your mother will not be treated like a criminal by the system.
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I fail to see the urgency of digging them out ahead of time... care to explain your legal point of view on that, as it would make for an interesting defense in Court (even though the judge would just laugh at it). We're not talking about a box of christmas decorations here, but about restricted firearms that should legally be locked away AT ALL TIMES when not in use at the range or directly supervised by their owner.

I've had guns for MANY years, many more then the OP from what I can gather.... yet I never leave one unattended even when I'm cleaning it and need to go for a piss (I lock it away), and my gun cabinets are always double locked when I'm not removing or storing firearms in them. That's right, I secure my firearms at all times when I'm not near them even though I completely trust my family (which is pro-gun, responsible, law abiding and would never think of stealing from me or misusing a firearm). It's called prevention and it's just common sense... no need to be a rocket scientist to figure it out. Then there's also compliance with legal requirements governing firearm ownership in this country (and, like I said, those laws are in place to make up for the lack of common sense that certain individuals in society seem to suffer from).

I guess some people are not cut out for gun ownership, yet they have guns nevertheless and we ALL pay the price for their f*ck ups in the end... same as some people who shouldn't be driving, yet they do have licenses and cars (plenty of those mofos on the roads out there, say it ain't so!). I'm amazed that some of you guys on here actually defend such grossly irresponsible actions. It says a lot about your own level of responsibility too... :onCrack:

Maybe Wendy has a point after all. Sad...

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You're way out of line, 762mm. "Wendy" has already won if her excessive policies have made us so quick to turn on one of our own.

I'm sorry but locking up your pistol if you have to take a piss isn't common sense, it's the insane actions of a man who's lived in fear of the SQ for too long.

If the police the OP has interacted with didn't think it necessary to throw the book at him, why are you?
 
Cerdan said:
You're way out of line, 762mm. "Wendy" has already won if her excessive policies have made us so quick to turn on one of our own.

I'm sorry but locking up your pistol if you have to take a piss isn't common sense, it's the insane actions of a man who's lived in fear of the SQ for too long.

If the police the OP has interacted with didn't think it necessary to throw the book at him, why are you?
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Didn't throw the book at him YET. That remains to be seen, my friend. I know this from experience, as I've spent over 10 years in law enforcement. Criminal charges can be laid within a year pending an investigation. I'm just giving him a little appetizer of what is most likely to come in the near future, that's all. We're all grown ups and we're all accountable for our actions... and their consequences.

Anywho... do as you please... you can even leave your Glock unattended all day long on your outside porch for all I care (as I won't be the one answering for it, you will). Personally, I think that a little prevention never hurts, even if it takes 10 extra seconds of your obviously very busy schedule to put the gun back in the cabinet/safe or to take it with you to another room when you leave. And I'm not living in fear of the SQ, lol! (I have some contacts working there, actually)... like I said, in my case it has nothing to do with the law and everything to do with common sense... whereas laws are made specifically for those who lack common sense.

Having said that, I too am against many provisions of the Firearms Act that serve no practical purpose, the registry being one of them... and I continuously fight for our rights in many ways (donations, memberships, letters to MPs, etc). In this particular case however, I cannot bring myself to feel sorry for the recklessness which lead to the theft of 3 restricted firearms. Leaving any guns out in the open and unattended when you're having a party of known criminals over is... well... just plain insane (please note that the OP stated earlier that they knew them as being a bunch of trailer trash druggies and thieves).
 
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762mm said:
Didn't throw the book at him YET. That remains to be seen, my friend. I know this from experience, as I've spent over 10 years in law enforcement. Criminal charges can be laid within a year pending an investigation. I'm just giving him a little appetizer of what is most likely to come in the near future, that's all. We're all grown ups and we're all accountable for our actions... and their consequences.

Anywho... do as you please... you can even leave your Glock unattended all day long on your outside porch for all I care (as I won't be the one answering for it, you will). Personally, I think that a little prevention never hurts, even if it takes 10 extra seconds of your obviously very busy schedule to put the gun back in the cabinet/safe or to take it with you to another room when you leave. And I'm not living in fear of the SQ, lol! (I have some contacts working there, actually)... like I said, in my case it has nothing to do with the law and everything to do with common sense... whereas laws are made specifically for those who lack common sense.

Having said that, I too am against many provisions of the Firearms Act that serve no practical purpose, the registry being one of them... and I continuously fight for our rights in many ways (donations, memberships, letters to MPs, etc). In this particular case however, I cannot bring myself to feel sorry for the recklessness which lead to the theft of 3 restricted firearms. Leaving any guns out in the open and unattended when you're having a party of known criminals over is... well... just plain insane (please note that the OP stated earlier that they knew them as being a bunch of trailer trash druggies and thieves).
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Easy there big guy take a little break go check to see if your gun safe's locked or something...

lets hear from the OP again before we lynch him.

By the way you would make a good news reporter.
 
762mm said:
We're not talking about a box of christmas decorations here, but about restricted firearms that should legally be locked away AT ALL TIMES when not in use at the range or directly supervised by their owner.
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That's just your own paranoia talking, there is no requirement to lock up any guns when you are home and awake enough to be "in control" of them.

Cerdan said:
You're way out of line, 762mm. "Wendy" has already won if her excessive policies have made us so quick to turn on one of our own.

I'm sorry but locking up your pistol if you have to take a piss isn't common sense, it's the insane actions of a man who's lived in fear of the SQ for too long.

If the police the OP has interacted with didn't think it necessary to throw the book at him, why are you?
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+1.

I find it sad that so many here are quick to blame the victim. The ONLY party responsible for the stolen guns is the thief who took them, no one else.

Mark
 
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