Stolen revolver and heirloom

762mm said:
I fail to see the urgency of digging them out ahead of time... care to explain your legal point of view on that, as it would make for an interesting defense in Court (even though the judge would just laugh at it). We're not talking about a box of christmas decorations here, but about restricted firearms that should legally be locked away AT ALL TIMES when not in use at the range or directly supervised by their owner.

I've had guns for MANY years, many more then the OP from what I can gather.... yet I never leave one unattended even when I'm cleaning it and need to go for a piss (I lock it away), and my gun cabinets are always double locked when I'm not removing or storing firearms in them. That's right, I secure my firearms at all times when I'm not near them even though I completely trust my family (which is pro-gun, responsible, law abiding and would never think of stealing from me or misusing a firearm). It's called prevention and it's just common sense... no need to be a rocket scientist to figure it out. Then there's also compliance with legal requirements governing firearm ownership in this country (and, like I said, those laws are in place to make up for the lack of common sense that certain individuals in society seem to suffer from).

I guess some people are not cut out for gun ownership, yet they have guns nevertheless and we ALL pay the price for their f*ck ups in the end... same as some people who shouldn't be driving, yet they do have licenses and cars (plenty of those mofos on the roads out there, say it ain't so!). I'm amazed that some of you guys on here actually defend such grossly irresponsible actions. It says a lot about your own level of responsibility too... :onCrack:

Maybe Wendy has a point after all. Sad...

:rolleyes:
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So....... When you die and are in your 80's, I hope your executor of your estate is as cautious as yourself. Likely, they won't be. They'll be torn apart by grief, worrying more about dispensing your property and other legal arrangements than whether or not the relatives who show up are going to rob them. A little common sense shows this isn't someone who ordinarily handles firearms, it's a sweet little old lady who is perhaps more trusting in human nature than she should be. If you honestly think this 80 year old lady should be charged, I hope you are out of law enforcement. The law also has a base in common sense and decency, not just blind adherence to regulations.
 
stolen revolver and heirloom

Well I'm sorry to hear what has happened to you and foremost your mother also . if I were you I'd hook up with a couple of buddys and go pay a visit to these guys . if they are dead beats like you said I'm sure neither of them will have a pal to buy ammo . they are odd ball calibers also .

I would tell the local gun shops to watchout for someone trying to purchace ammo in those calibers and get a licence plate number off buddys car who was loking to buy the 6mm or the 455 ammo unless they know he had bought that ammo several times before .

that would be a good way to pop who ever has your guns . and I'd do that soon as they will want to try them out to see how they work . as for your mom well most older people are very trusting . and as far as I'm concerned that was a very disrespectful thing to do to your mom . both of those guys need a good punch in the mouth .

don't you do it or you;ll loose your guns . JMO . take care and good luck.:mad:
 
Im sorry to hear that happened, The world is just not the same anymore. If you cant trust family who can you trust ?

I can tell you if that happened to me I would be kicking in their front door and getting them back. Might not be legal but its sometimes what has to be done when the police are not willing to help.

Many years ago one of my fathers cilents ( He has a hunting business) was out for breakfast with all the guys when his hotel room was broken into and his two rifles stolen. They were both locked in cases and in the closet. they knew who it was who had done it. So they called the police and they all drove over and got the guns back that day, he got arrested and everything was fine. Sometimes I wish police would still act like that.

Cheers, McLean

Best of luck to you, Hope you get it all back
 
drache said:
Why do you say that? His comment "Police Involved" seems to show that they have been contacted. :confused:
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Sorry I missed that part :redface: In that case meh I hope he gets them back soon ####ty thing for family to do.

Also after reading OPs post kinda concerned that the guns weren't removed sooner or is the dad in a home a new development.
 
Although these guns are now in the hands of someone that should not have firearms, the saving grace for my peace of mind is that both of these firearms are old, obscure cartridges.

The Flobert type is a rimfire 6MM. I have never found any existing ammo. As for the 455, I never found anything around for my father to have been able to take this thing to the range. 15 years back, one of my former colleagues from the Infantry was able to turn up 5 live cartridges. That is all I was ever able to get my hands on over the past 20 years. However, the 455 is still an imposing piece even without ammo, if were ever to be waved in someone's face. My only hope is that whichever jackass has it, tries to load another modern 45 load, and have the thing blow their hand off.
 
red magnum said:
I'll say it again to the OP sorry to hear about this ordeal. Stuff like that can split a family, and some might say with good reason.

As for 762... I'm kinda at a loss for words.[


ya pretty crappy to hear hope your able to track them down but ya as for 762 theres a time and aplace man, go talk that s**t to the 12 yr olds on call of duty not a fellow memeber of a gunsite that did not ask for your readings of the law or how this situation should of been handled by his 80 yr old mother GTFO.... just read that you have spent 10 years in law enforcement disregard what i said that explains everything!
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Duncan Idaho said:
For those wishing to accuse me of lacking common sense or worse, I live in Edmonton and was in my home when all this silliness transpired. My mother lives 500km away.

Imagine an 80 year old woman that really knows absolutely nothing about firearms. My father is now in a home. The firearms were his. Elderly mother digs everything out and sets them on the table with the intention of getting the serial numbers for my sake, to assist in completing the legal transfer before I drive 500 km. At that moment, the doorbell rings, and through the window she can see her granddaughter and nephew on the doorstep. She left the guns on the table to let them in. Guns disappeared during the visit and neither on fessed up.

Cops said that unless one of them admits to it or is later caught in possession, nothing will likely happen.

Now, the next clown that wants to accuse me of wrong doing, please come to my door so I can plug ya in the lookers.
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I'm surprised that there is not enough information for the police to obtain a search warrant, or at least pay the scumbags a visit and let them know that they're under suspicion. Pretty sad that they won't even make an effort to investigate even when the thief's name is handed to them.
 
Having a law enforcement background as well, this is baffling for me, as it was one of two individuals that were in the house at the same time. So far, local PD visited each home and have reported that it is believed that neither party is suspected of having the firearms.

It appears that further investigation is not going to be pursued.
 
Why not post some 6mm ammo for sale on craigslist or something, assuming these guys can read. Actually that's probably a stupid idea because you'll piss off so many real collectors. But maybe get a friend to approach them saying he can get any kind of ammo. I'm just thinking out loud, maybe somebody else has a better idea.
 
thats really too bad.. a couple years ago while my girlfriend and i were at work our house was broken into and 5 guns were stolen.. even though we got robbed the cops looked at us like we were the criminals.. and i work with the police !!!!
 
Hi Duncan,

Thanks for providing clarification, clears up the story. Is it possible someone else may have entered the home during the visit and maybe your mother has forgotten or was not aware?

-Steve
 
None others entered the home that day.

And, Mum noticed the pistols gone from the table while the 2 visitors were still present. Obviously it was one of the two, but apparently the police can't/won't do anything unless one of the two either confesses or gets picked up in possession of one or both or both items.
 
Duncan Idaho said:
None others entered the home that day.

And, Mum noticed the pistols gone from the table while the 2 visitors were still present. Obviously it was one of the two, but apparently the police can't/won't do anything unless one of the two either confesses or gets picked up in possession of one or both or both items.
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If she noticed it missing while they were there why didn't she do anything??

Im not saying anything physical but why not call the cops then??
 
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atinderpal said:
wow duncan, really shocked and sorry..and i hope god brings justice to them. Its just a matter of time before you get em back.
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Yeah, not likely.
Duncan Idaho said:
apparently the police can't/won't do anything unless one of the two either confesses or gets picked up in possession of one or both or both items.
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Sorry to hear about your loss, I would have thought the police would go bezerk over missing restricteds... their hands must be tied up.
 
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