Stopping Power
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Thomas D'Arcy McGee
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Have one with a scope rail, you won't regret getting one, or 2. The grin after shooting it left my wife thinking I was cheating on her.
Probably because wars aren't fought with pea shooters and most encounters where deadly force is authorized or required, the subject is not wearing body armor.
I do like that there is yet another statistical analysis that proves "stopping power" is once again a myth
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9mm is a side arm, not a main weapon. Most 9mm are used to go to and from chow hall. Most 9mm issued in Afghanistan were used to shop around The Boardwalk and provided awesome ND stories.
9mm is still a very efficient caliber when it comes to stopping a threat
Absolutly like the video.
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Thomas D'Arcy McGee
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
Hello DT,
Thank you for chiming in
Question for you:
If the Russians storm Latvia do you feel the CAF 9mm and 5.56mm would be able to penetrate a Russian infantry soldiers body armour?
TDM
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Its a long shot of an answer. I'll do it in 2 parts without being political:
1- there is a lot more to body armor than lab test. In controlled environnement, body armor give out their optimal results. Then these same perfect armor a released into the wild and #### goes sideway with a lot of factors playing roles:
- wear&tear of the armor: soldiers in general tend to abuse their kit and break it. I routinely witness soldiers dropping their body armor with plates in or storing it wet/sweaty. Both proven to reduces effiency of the soft and hard armor. Soft&hard armor need to be replaced after a certain date, it doesnt always happen.
- usage: in order to get maximum effectiveness, one must wear a properly fitter body armor. Then it must be worn properly.
-mentality: you can put the best body armor on someone, doesnt make him a fighter with a fighter mind set. Bullets flying around, regardless of caliber will make anyone seek for cover no matter what armor suit you have on.
-burden: the more armor you have, the less agile you are. There is a balance between protection and agility. It also depends on threats. If most threats are small arm, i'd favor good stand alone plate. If IED is the flavor of the day... You need some more soft armor.
Yes I'd be confident with my 5.56 rifle, yes. Now would I take something else if I was given freedom of choice ? HELL YEAH ! 7.62x51 would be my choice. A nice 16" AR10
PS: the Ratnik communications system has a nato counterpart being developed, wont go into details because not allowed.
1- there is a lot more to body armor than lab test. In controlled environnement, body armor give out their optimal results. Then these same perfect armor a released into the wild and #### goes sideway with a lot of factors playing roles:
- wear&tear of the armor: soldiers in general tend to abuse their kit and break it. I routinely witness soldiers dropping their body armor with plates in or storing it wet/sweaty. Both proven to reduces effiency of the soft and hard armor. Soft&hard armor need to be replaced after a certain date, it doesnt always happen.
- usage: in order to get maximum effectiveness, one must wear a properly fitter body armor. Then it must be worn properly.
-mentality: you can put the best body armor on someone, doesnt make him a fighter with a fighter mind set. Bullets flying around, regardless of caliber will make anyone seek for cover no matter what armor suit you have on.
-burden: the more armor you have, the less agile you are. There is a balance between protection and agility. It also depends on threats. If most threats are small arm, i'd favor good stand alone plate. If IED is the flavor of the day... You need some more soft armor.
Yes I'd be confident with my 5.56 rifle, yes. Now would I take something else if I was given freedom of choice ? HELL YEAH ! 7.62x51 would be my choice. A nice 16" AR10
PS: the Ratnik communications system has a nato counterpart being developed, wont go into details because not allowed.
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About time, glad to hear it, but I wonder how advanced they've come with it Ratnik, compared to what is publicly known.
I hope it dosent, when a government gets out of control the best thing that can happen is for it to loose a war
I would guess the majority of working lativans wouldnt mind lower taxes, dumping the euro, controlled borders, and deporting illegal migrants
Unfortunately its inevitable, as governments never change for the better
An Alternate Look at Handgun Stopping Power;
https://www.buckeyefirearms.org/alternate-look-handgun-stopping-power
https://www.buckeyefirearms.org/alternate-look-handgun-stopping-power
