I don't own a gun yet but am close to being able to get one (some paperwork yet to complete). My question is would a metal toolbox with a lock on it which is locked to an immovable object such as my computer desk be good enough to store a gun at home? Would it be O.K. to transport in such a toolbox.?????????
Storage of semi-auto at home.........
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If you locked your pistol in a metal tool box with a trigger lock on the pistol inside you are good to go for storage and transporting to the range. Here is a link to the RCMP fact sheet.
http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/cfp-pcaf/fs-fd/storage-entreposage-eng.htm
http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/cfp-pcaf/fs-fd/storage-entreposage-eng.htm
http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/cfp-pcaf/fs-fd/storage-entreposage-eng.htm
Doesn't require it be locked to a heavy object since a bolt cutter will make quick work of any chain you use. So basically trigger locked and locked in a container. Or so the regs say. But again it's up to the officer that is called to the scene.
In reality if a cabinet is lag bolted to a wall and floor joists a few minutes and a saw can take out the joists if you don't care about ruining the house
. We use to use a pry bar to remove Concrete Anchors in the barns worked pretty well.
My gun cabinet looks to me to be fairly easy to open without the key hack saw and some time.
Doesn't require it be locked to a heavy object since a bolt cutter will make quick work of any chain you use. So basically trigger locked and locked in a container. Or so the regs say. But again it's up to the officer that is called to the scene.
In reality if a cabinet is lag bolted to a wall and floor joists a few minutes and a saw can take out the joists if you don't care about ruining the house
. We use to use a pry bar to remove Concrete Anchors in the barns worked pretty well. My gun cabinet looks to me to be fairly easy to open without the key hack saw and some time.
To the letter of the law: Locked in a cabinet. Use a trigger lock if you want. a trigger lock. Funny thing is that he leyou can leave the appropriate keys in all the locks. The law states it has to be in a locked container, but it doesn't say you can't leave the key in the lock
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I had a CFC "aiming for safety" leaflet that showed the key in the lock, wish I still had it.
Locks are useless without key control, yup.
For me it is more than just what the law requires, I would be choked if someone broke in and stole my guns. More so because I would hate the thought of some slime ball now in possession of stolen guns, especially my stolen guns. I strongly error on the cautious side when it comes to storage and you should definitely consider a safe, it doesn't have to be a big one but it should be bolted down and at least hidden if possible.
My theory is try to make it as absolutely hard as possible for any of your guns to be stolen. What might seem well secured to you is probably not secure to many thieves. If they happen to have a pry bar or even a large screwdriver, realistically it probably wouldn't be very hard at all to get into or remove a bolted down toolbox.
My theory is try to make it as absolutely hard as possible for any of your guns to be stolen. What might seem well secured to you is probably not secure to many thieves. If they happen to have a pry bar or even a large screwdriver, realistically it probably wouldn't be very hard at all to get into or remove a bolted down toolbox.
Cutting torch makes short work of anything and fridge dolly and a truck make short work of a safe. All your doing is slowing them down. Your not stopping them if they come prepared.
The OP asked what was legal requirements not what stops a thief nothing stops a thief cepted maybe if your home.
The OP asked what was legal requirements not what stops a thief nothing stops a thief cepted maybe if your home.
Slightly off topic/just for fun info:
I used to deliver beds when I was younger (1997'ish)... I would deliver to about 15 homes a day. Each month I would come across at least 2 homes with a rifle or shotgun laying on or next to the bed on the nightstand. I'd always wonder if this was intentional or accidental (either way, I never asked).
I used to deliver beds when I was younger (1997'ish)... I would deliver to about 15 homes a day. Each month I would come across at least 2 homes with a rifle or shotgun laying on or next to the bed on the nightstand
. I'd always wonder if this was intentional or accidental (either way, I never asked).
This is exactly the philosophy I subscribe to. I love my guns and I don't want anyone stealing them. My safe is large and bolted to the wall, it's also out of sight behind a locked door, in a room with no windows because I know how much of a target a giant safe is; you don't have to study criminology to know when a criminal sees a safe he thinks "the good #### is in there!".
I as of late have been feeling the strain of gun control and although I strongly believe in safe storage I've been spending a lot of time lobbying to get some more freedoms, we are doing this legally after all, the statistics on our side, I'd like to see the government and law enforcement recognize that legal gun owners aren't a hazard!
Tim.
