Storing black powder

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Hey all, i have a few questions regarding safe storage of black powder. So i really want to get into traditional flintlock shooting but my main concern is storage. I live in an apartment and therefore do not have an out building to store powder in and i have some concerns about keeping cans of goex in my closet (wouldn't actually do this) So i guess I'm wondering if anyone has suggestions or are in the same sort of situation. Thanks in advance!
 
Skinny 1950 said:
Black Powder is supposed to be stored in a wooden box with brass hinges and lock fixtures...see information in this link:

http://www.cdnshootingsports.org/legal_info_for_reloaders.html
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Might want to check your info.

The actual law is here:

http://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/regulations/SOR-2013-211/index.html

Unlicensed user

298. A user who does not hold a licence must store their propellant powder, percussion caps and black powder cartouches in a dwelling or a Footnote *storage unit and ensure that the requirements of sections 299 to 304 are met.

Note: Subsection 279(2) provides that users must store small arms cartridges in accordance with sections 280 and 281.
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Black powder

(3) Black powder must be stored in its original container, in small arms cartridges or in black powder cartouches.
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http://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/regulations/SOR-2013-211/page-92.html#h-109

304. (1) When propellant powder, percussion caps or black power cartouches are stored in a dwelling, they must be stored away from flammable substances and sources of ignition. People not authorized by the user must not be given unlimited access to the propellant powder, percussion caps or black powder cartouches.
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http://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/regulations/SOR-2013-211/page-93.html#docCont

Store it in its original container and you are good.



Shawn
 
I keep mine in a locked room, in a locked plastic container with dessicant, and in its original container. I'm more worried about moisture and my kids than an explosion.
 
interesting; it says that only authorized people can access it but does not say what the requirements are for authorization. Seemingly as long as the owner of the powder declares you can access the powder, that is good enough. I don't believe the law requires a PAL to possess reloading components even though store policy often makes that requirement in order to purchase the components.

cheers mooncoon
 
mooncoon said:
interesting; it says that only authorized people can access it but does not say what the requirements are for authorization. Seemingly as long as the owner of the powder declares you can access the powder, that is good enough. I don't believe the law requires a PAL to possess reloading components even though store policy often makes that requirement in order to purchase the components.

cheers mooncoon
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FYI ...Just bought powder, bullets, primers @ cabelas and they didn't even ask to see my pal. Just had to fill out a form with my name, address and phone number for the powder purchase. One interesting thing is that they are not allowed to give advice on powder. Just pointed me to the shelf of reloading manuals and told me to use them as reference. Had no problem recommending bullets or primers though
 
williss said:
FYI ...Just bought powder, bullets, primers @ cabelas and they didn't even ask to see my pal. Just had to fill out a form with my name, address and phone number for the powder purchase. One interesting thing is that they are not allowed to give advice on powder. Just pointed me to the shelf of reloading manuals and told me to use them as reference. Had no problem recommending bullets or primers though
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If they told you the wrong powder...and you explode your gun.
lose your hand and an eye...come back and take them to court. ...


If they point you to a book and you blow yourself up...you can only blame the book
 
williss said:
FYI ...Just bought powder, bullets, primers @ cabelas and they didn't even ask to see my pal. Just had to fill out a form with my name, address and phone number for the powder purchase. One interesting thing is that they are not allowed to give advice on powder. Just pointed me to the shelf of reloading manuals and told me to use them as reference. Had no problem recommending bullets or primers though
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Asking the clerk at Cabelas for reloading advice is like asking airport security about what the best flights are for your vacation to Cuba. They might give you an answer but would you trust it? Do your home work before you get there.
 
You might want to check to see if your building or your municipal and/or provincial fire regulations have anything to day about powder and/or ammunition storage. There are often greater restrictions placed on attached dwellings.

Regards,
Joel
 
I think if you store it in a box made of 3/4 inch plywood with non ferrous metal fittings and have it labeled "Explosives" you are good to go.
That is my theory and I am going to stick to it.
 
Skinny 1950 said:
I think if you store it in a box made of 3/4 inch plywood with non ferrous metal fittings and have it labeled "Explosives" you are good to go.
That is my theory and I am going to stick to it.
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If that is what you choose to that is fine, but it is not a legal requirement

Shawn
 
In talking to the Ontario Ministry of Natural Resources (back in September 2014), they clarified to me that storage and transportation of black powder met all legal requirements if stored in its original conatiner (ie. Goex plastic container) or applicable container (ie. powder horn) and contained and locked in a dry storage ammunition box such as this:

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Once at the range or hunting location, take it out of the ammo box and go hunting. Return to the vehicle put it in the storage box. Once you are home, keep it in the locked box. Even though this is what they clarified for me, I would reccomend that you contact the MNR office in your area to confirm. They are your best source of info on what is legal or not.
 
williss said:
FYI ...Just bought powder, bullets, primers @ cabelas and they didn't even ask to see my pal. Just had to fill out a form with my name, address and phone number for the powder purchase. One interesting thing is that they are not allowed to give advice on powder. Just pointed me to the shelf of reloading manuals and told me to use them as reference. Had no problem recommending bullets or primers though
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No written law to purchase components with a PAL anywhere in Canada.
 
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