Strange Belt Question

Save yourself the trouble and just get a standard belt. You are starting with something that is not as well suited for the sport and will only cause you problems without giving any advantage or benefit.

But to each thier own and it always seems like people like to be different even if its not competitive. What do the top shooters in your area or in the world use?
 
I don't mean to jack this thread, but I have a question about the exception for LEO/Military. My drop leg holster is part of my CF issue kit, would I be allowed to use it in IPSC matches?
 
SpencerDF said:
I don't mean to jack this thread, but I have a question about the exception for LEO/Military. My drop leg holster is part of my CF issue kit, would I be allowed to use it in IPSC matches?
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It should be legal as long as the muzzle doesn't point further then 1 meter from your feet when standing relaxed and if the trigger can not be accessed or activated while holstered.
 
bizman89 said:
Save yourself the trouble and just get a standard belt. You are starting with something that is not as well suited for the sport and will only cause you problems without giving any advantage or benefit.

But to each thier own and it always seems like people like to be different even if its not competitive. What do the top shooters in your area or in the world use?
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They wear all the regular stuff, with really awesome guns. I'm not really interested in the competitive edge, just want to get out and shoot and become more effective with my gear.
 
jazscam said:
They wear all the regular stuff, with really awesome guns. I'm not really interested in the competitive edge, just want to get out and shoot and become more effective with my gear.
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so long as you follow the "basic" IPSC rules, wear what ya got, be safe, have fun and get out and shoot!
 
SpencerDF said:
I don't mean to jack this thread, but I have a question about the exception for LEO/Military. My drop leg holster is part of my CF issue kit, would I be allowed to use it in IPSC matches?
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You would, but only if it was actually issued to you, and only if you wear ALL of the issued kit (including, e.g., your issued helmet and body armour).

IPSC RULES
<http://www.ipsc.org/rules/>

5.2.7. Competitors must not be permitted to commence a course of fire wearing:
5.2.7.1. 5.2.7.2. 5.2.7.3. 5.2.7.4.
A shoulder holster or "tie-down" rig (visible or otherwise), except as specified in Rule 5.2.8,
A holster with the heel of the butt of the handgun below the top of the belt, except as specified in Rule 5.2.8,
A holster with the muzzle of the handgun pointing further than 1 meter from the competitor's feet while standing relaxed,
A holster which does not completely prevent access to, or activation of, the trigger of the handgun while holstered.

5.2.8. Competitors deemed by the Match Director to be active law enforcement officers or military personnel may be entitled to use their duty holsters and allied equipment however, the Range Master will remain the final authority in respect of the safety and suitability of using such equipment at IPSC matches.
5.2.8.1. Competitors deemed by the Range Master to be permanently and significantly disabled may be given special dispensation in relation to the type and/or placement of their holster and allied equipment, and the Range Master will remain the final authority in respect of the safety and suitability of using such equipment at IPSC matches.

5.3. Appropriate Dress
5.3.1. The use of camouflage or other similar types of military or police garments is discouraged. The exception are competitors who are law enforcement or military personnel. The Match Director will be the final authority in respect of what garments must not be worn by competitors.

<http://www.ipsc.org/pdf/RulesHandgun.pdf>
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Wendell said:
You would, but only if it was actually issued to you, and only if you wear ALL of the issued kit (including, e.g., your issued helmet and body armour).

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5.2.7. Competitors must not be permitted to commence a course of fire wearing:
5.2.7.1. 5.2.7.2. 5.2.7.3. 5.2.7.4.
A shoulder holster or "tie-down" rig (visible or otherwise), except as specified in Rule 5.2.8,
A holster with the heel of the butt of the handgun below the top of the belt, except as specified in Rule 5.2.8,
A holster with the muzzle of the handgun pointing further than 1 meter from the competitor's feet while standing relaxed,
A holster which does not completely prevent access to, or activation of, the trigger of the handgun while holstered.

5.2.8. Competitors deemed by the Match Director to be active law enforcement officers or military personnel may be entitled to use their duty holsters and allied equipment however, the Range Master will remain the final authority in respect of the safety and suitability of using such equipment at IPSC matches.
5.2.8.1. Competitors deemed by the Range Master to be permanently and significantly disabled may be given special dispensation in relation to the type and/or placement of their holster and allied equipment, and the Range Master will remain the final authority in respect of the safety and suitability of using such equipment at IPSC matches.

5.3. Appropriate Dress
5.3.1. The use of camouflage or other similar types of military or police garments is discouraged. The exception are competitors who are law enforcement or military personnel. The Match Director will be the final authority in respect of what garments must not be worn by competitors.

<http://www.ipsc.org/pdf/RulesHandgun.pdf>


IPSC RULES
<http://www.ipsc.org/rules/>
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I am not seeing that ALL part you mention.....Don't think it says that.
 
SVISTI1911 said:
I am not seeing that ALL part you mention.....Don't think it says that.
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It's at the discretion of the RM, but it looks pretty clear to me "duty holsters and allied equipment"

My position is...the entire duty rig (belt, holster and mag pouches) with all snaps and covers engages just like in the field. That opinion has been supported the very few times it has come up. Once the shooter has a better understanding of how the duty rig will have to be used...they generally see it as too much of a disadvantage. I only remember seeing a shooter actually using a duty rig twice in 13 years
 
Quigley said:
It's at the discretion of the RM, but it looks pretty clear to me "duty holsters and allied equipment"

My position is...the entire duty rig (belt, holster and mag pouches) with all snaps and covers engages just like in the field. That opinion has been supported the very few times it has come up. Once the shooter has a better understanding of how the duty rig will have to be used...they generally see it as too much of a disadvantage. I only remember seeing a shooter actually using a duty rig twice in 13 years
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I agree with that, but I don't see it as that they would have to wear any body armor, helmets, clothing, etc as Wendal posted. At what point does it stop becoming allied equipment.
 
SVISTI1911 said:
I agree with that, but I don't see it as that they would have to wear any body armor, helmets, clothing, etc as Wendal posted. At what point does it stop becoming allied equipment.
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It would be allied equipment as defined in the IPSC rulebook. So...belt, holster, mag pouches etc.
 
Can't see the point unless you just want to be different no matter how much it handicaps you.
 
Ipsik said:
Can't see the point unless you just want to be different no matter how much it handicaps you.
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