Striker Fired - No Safety

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Obviously I don’t know a lot about pistols. My question - Why is it common to not have a manual safety on a striker fired pistol? How “safe” are pistols that don’t have a manual safety?
 
The safety is built into the trigger. You usually have to depress a blade that protrudes out from the trigger in order to engage the the trigger. Pistols are very safe in the proper hands
 
^^^ What he said. Know the 4 Coopers Rules especially the “ Keep your finger off the trigger until ready to shoot” rule.

Never depend on a mechanical safety to make up for bad gun handling habits.
And my Glock has 3 safeties also! One external and 2 internal :cheers:
 
Thanks, kinda goes without saying not to rely on any safety and practice safe handling. I was more looking for the mechanics / design piece. Would it be correct to say that a striker fire pistol with no mechanical safety would be on par with a bolt action rifle with no safety, as far as being safe goes? (example only - I know bolt rifles have safeties)
 
You are wrong in saying that striker fired guns have NO mechanical safeties. ALL commonly available ones do have some form of MULTIPLE safeties. A built in trigger safety, a firing pin/striker block safety and a drop safety.
And some striker fired guns can be ordered with an external thumb safety also.

There are actually more safeties on a striker fired gun than a typical bolt action rifle.


Some experienced shooters like external safeties. It’s what they trained with and there is nothing wrong with that. Having external safeties is more comforting if you appendix carry a concealed handgun ( not applicable to most of us!) or if you compete in high speed movement games like IPSC and IDPA. I personally have no use for external safeties as I usually lose micro seconds forgetting it’s on when I draw on the beep!
 
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Simply put, because it doesn't need a secondary manual safety.

But I strongly agree with the others who've said training is the ultimate safety.
 
Only safety on striker fired. Is on the trigger. And you need this to activate it.

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Iltasyuko said:
Thanks, kinda goes without saying not to rely on any safety and practice safe handling. I was more looking for the mechanics / design piece. Would it be correct to say that a striker fire pistol with no mechanical safety would be on par with a bolt action rifle with no safety, as far as being safe goes? (example only - I know bolt rifles have safeties)
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No. The little lever is a safety catch. The safety gets turned off each time you pull the trigger and mechanically re-engages when you take the finger off the trigger.
 
Most striker fired are not physically "cocked" enough to ignite a primer until the trigger is pulled like Glocks and things copied from them.
 
Most modern striker fired pistols are drop safe and have a little tiny trigger on the inside of the actual trigger that needs to be pressed, so that even an accidental pull on the trigger, like getting snagged on something, won’t fire the gun unless that little trigger piece is also pulled.

There is no decocker, or manual safety to remember to pull to simplify use of the gun. Apparently, the British army switched from high powers with a manual safety to Glocks in the belief that the high power was too dangerous to carry with one in the pipe because it was single action and, I guess, because safeties can fail. The Glock was considered, by them, to be safer with a round in the chamber and quicker to deploy.

Glock safeties can fail too .... there is an old thread on here about a Cop that shot himself in the leg (Calgary I think). In that thread, there was a lot of talk of the ins and outs of the technical aspects of the striker fired safeties. If you do a search, you might find some of the technical information you’re seeking there.
 
Iltasyuko said:
Obviously I don’t know a lot about pistols. My question - Why is it common to not have a manual safety on a striker fired pistol? How “safe” are pistols that don’t have a manual safety?
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The Browning models 1910 and 1922 have a grip safety and a thumb safety.
Even when the manual safety is off you have to squeeze the grip fairly hard or you cannot pull the trigger,very smart idea for such old designs.
 
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Most modern striker fired pistols are drop safe and have a little tiny trigger on the inside of the actual trigger that needs to be pressed, so that even an accidental pull on the trigger, like getting snagged on something, won’t fire the gun unless that little trigger piece is also pulled.

There is no decocker, or manual safety to remember to pull to simplify use of the gun. Apparently, the British army switched from high powers with a manual safety to Glocks in the belief that the high power was too dangerous to carry with one in the pipe because it was single action and, I guess, because safeties can fail. The Glock was considered, by them, to be safer with a round in the chamber and quicker to deploy.

Glock safeties can fail too .... there is an old thread on here about a Cop that shot himself in the leg (Calgary I think). In that thread, there was a lot of talk of the ins and outs of the technical aspects of the striker fired safeties. If you do a search, you might find some of the technical information you’re seeking there.
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Thanks for this. Interesting stuff - seeing the manual safety built into the Sig P320 M-17 for the US Army got me thinking about all this.
 
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