Stuck Bolt in Ross m-10

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Hello

I am brand new to Ross Rifles this is the first one i have picked up although i left a .280 to be picked up in the near future!

I have read and new about the issues with the bolts being put together wrong and those problems but i have a problem that i need advice from you Ross Fans!

The two Ross's that the guy i ambuying from. both have a similar issue! It seems to me that the bolts have been Istalled Wrong!! As in the locking Lugs are Virtical before the reach the end of the Reciver! I will try to post the pictures i took tonight but it is really hard to get a good photo of what i mean! Basicaly that .303 M-10 that i have at home the Bolt Will not move Forward or Backwards. The guy said he did it about 20 years ago and never got it figured out so i hope some help from you guys that know these rifles will point me into a new Direction!


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It looks like the bolt head popped back while the bolt was being put into the action.

the locking lugs should be horizontal with the action when the bolt goes in.

I have had this happen on my mannlichers and I was able to remove the bolt by wiggling it from side to side and pressing forward on the trigger to activate the release while gently pulling the bolt back.

I then recocked the bolt head and carefully reinserted the bolt.
 
Wow...pretty jammed up! :eek:

I assume it's resisted your best efforts to remove it so far?

Have you rotated the bolt release on the left side to 90 degrees out to the left? (normal release position)
If so did that make any difference in the situation?

Can the bolt move fore or aft at all?

If that makes no difference I'd say next step...remove the trigger guard and stock. (not hard at all)

Remove the rear sight bridge by removing the screws on both sides holding it to the receiver. Don't mix them up, keep them in order as they can be different lengths. Make sure you use good fitting screwdrivers that don't bugger the slots.

With that out of the way, it should be possible to rotate the bolt head while pulling back on the bolt and it'll come out.

Best of luck.
 
Yes, your bolt has "collapsed" itself into firing position before being fully inserted. It does happen sometimes.

First step: flip the bolt stop/cutoff (left side of receiver) to its STRAIGHT OUT position.

Wiggle the bolt by its handle side-to-side and draw to the rear. You MAY get interfeence from the trigger mech, which means you might have to pull the trigger and tap the bolt lightly to get it to move out.

Once the bolt is OUT, grasp the bolt-shank in your left hand and pull forward and twist TOWARD you with the right hand, continuing until the bolt-head has extended itself AN INCH and has turned through a full 90 degrees toward you. At about 88 degrees, the bolthead should be on a "step", but turn it the full 90 anyway; little bit of insurance never hurt.

NOW slide the bolt carefully into the boltway and ease it forward until you are SURE that the slide cuts in the bottom of the bolt are fully supported by the slides in the Receiver. Push it forward another couple of inches, the turn the Bolt Stop UP to its REPEAT position; you now will be able to use the Magazine. If you want the rifle to operate with the Magazine in reserve, and handle single rounds only, you flip the Bolt Stop full DOWN.

You will note that, if you have done everything right, the bolt-head will be projecting that full INCH ahead of the bolt-sleeve. This is the SAFE position. I mention this because it IS POSSIBLE to assemble a Ross bolt in a dangerous condition. I can't see a PIN on your bolt, so I am assuming that it is not pinned.

NO cause for alarm. I have several UNpinned Rosses and I shoot them all, as wel as the pinned ones. The bolt can NOT come out of djustment by itself; it REQUIRES human intevention to make it unsafe..... and this human intervention usully requires that the Extactor be dismounted first. Your Extractor is in place properly and when you insert this bolt, it should be in the SAFE position.

To CHECK a Ross bolt for the SAFE position, all you do is pull it halfway back and look at it. The rear and of the left-rear locking lug should be ONE INCH forward of the forward edge of the Bolt Sleeve. That's the SAFE position. The UNSAFE position is just a QUARTER inch. The Ross Bolt can NOT get out of whack by itself so, once it's in place, you're safe to go.

Nice thing you will notice when you get her out on the range: the trigger is like greased butter (they were all that way) and very positive. As to the action itself, Ross himself tried to blow one up with 125,000 psi..... and it held together. Likely it is the strongest military rifle action ever built.

You have a Fine Toy.

Keep her shooting!

Hope this helps.
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Get on youtube and punch in ross rifle bolt dissambly.
That way you can take the pressure off by taking off the cocking piece/striker.
 
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