Sub $2K LR setup

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All my current stuff falls into deer rifle / semi-auto plinking / milsurp-collector categories but am going to give a shot (pardon the pun) at longer range shooting and am hopeful that this forum may provide some opinions on a setup I am looking at that gets me behind the trigger for a shade under $2K

Rem 700 Milspec R5
Bushnell Elite 4200 8x32
Leupold bases and rings
Harris bipod

Value for money ? Suggestions ?

Cheers,
 
Savage 12FV (under $600) or some other version you like the stock better. Cal is 223. 75gr Amax over Varget lit by a CCI BR4 in Win brass. Lee collet delux die set. Good to beyond 1000yds. Bed the action and open up the forend ALOT - stiffen if desired or swap stocks.

223 equals 308 for ballistics with 1/2 the costs and 1/3 the recoil.

The new F class Savage in 6BR is also a good one but may not come up for a LONG time.

Weaver bases and Burris Sig rings w/inserts - 30mm. Bushnell Elite 4200 6X24 tactical w/mildots side focus. The 8X32 doesn't have enough elevation to work with a 308 or 223.

Other choices would be Elite 4200 6x24 1" Side focus and AO versions. I use the AO version for competition and it works wonderfully. Both come with mil dots which helps to overcome the lack of internal elevation.

I shoot my 223 from 100yds to 1000m using the reticle and scope adjustment.

You should be able to get all this for around $1200-1800 leaving money for reloading components.

Jerry
 
Interresting post !

I'm about to mount something on the same rifle for about the same amount ( a little more as I think about it ... )

Rem 700 Milspec R5
Falcon Menace 4-14x44 FFP
Nightforce 20 MOA base and rings (good base to upgrade scope if necessary...and I've learnt, at some cost, in photography that a solid base is a must...)
Harris bipod or similar
Accu-shot monopod

Just waiting to receive all parts...:cool:
 
Other choices would be Elite 4200 6x24 1" Side focus and AO versions. I use the AO version for competition and it works wonderfully. Both come with mil dots which helps to overcome the lack of internal elevation.

If you're buying a new scope stay away from this one due to it's lack of internat adjustment, small target turrets, and use of 1/8" adjustments. There's not need to burden yourself with this scope's limitations, if you just buy an adequate scope in the first place.

If you're interested in Bushnell, the 6x24 30mm "Tactical" with a 20 moa base would be a far better choice. Compare them both online and see which one suits you best. Glass on both models should be equal in quality.
 
Another thing to consider is a used Leupold. I tend to be much more concerned w/ function and reliability than cosmetics, so a used scope that might have some cosmetic blemishes, but carries a lifetime warranty, with a Canadian repair depot, makes for more affordable option.
 
If you're buying a new scope stay away from this one due to it's lack of internat adjustment, small target turrets, and use of 1/8" adjustments. There's not need to burden yourself with this scope's limitations, if you just buy an adequate scope in the first place.

Yes, they are limited but their entire range is useable. On my 223, I have my 1" side focus set up to go from 100yds to 1100yds and can go further.

Enough elevation????

As for the 1/8 clicks, the further you go, the more you will appreciate the smaller clicks.

Jerry
 
Yes, they are limited but their entire range is useable. On my 223, I have my 1" side focus set up to go from 100yds to 1100yds and can go further.

Enough elevation????

As for the 1/8 clicks, the further you go, the more you will appreciate the smaller clicks.

Jerry

Just because you've managed to make this scope fit your particular situation doesn't mean he has to be saddled with it. It's not like he already has the scope and is trying to adapt it to a particular application. He's buying a new scope, right? For his application there are far better choices for close to the same money spent without having to compromise.

Your scope has a reported 40 moa of total adjustment range. Even if it were perfectly centered (good luck) you'd only have 20 moa of total elevation (with a 0 moa base or rings) and I fail to see how all of that is usable as far as windage is concerned.

Sure, add in the Burris rings with the 20 moa inserts, that you're fond of, and you have 40 moa of available adjustment. Not an ideal situation but it'd work.

What kind of come ups are you using for a .223 at 1,100 yds. It's got to be approaching what? 35-38 moa or so? Even with the inserts you're beginning to run out of eleveation and windage adjustments.
 
As I mentioned in my first post and last one, these 1" scopes have limited elevation and only use the ones with the mil dot reticle. Otherwise you run out of elevation.

I have no problems using the entire elevation range in these scopes. Unlike some scope, it doesn't bind or loose zero at the extremes of movement. optics are as good at either extreme as in the middle. Centering the scope adj, as common with some brands, is not necessary. A by product of not having much movement in the first place.

At present, I am full up and dead center for 1100yds. I can then use the dots to go further - another couple of hundred yrds if desired.

The point was simply that elevation adj in a scope can be misleading. If a scope doesn't work well at the extremes of movement then the 'real' adj is much less then advertised. Also, a hash mark/mil dot/picket fence reticle can help you when LR shooting is your goal.

As you may have read in that first post, my recommendation was for the new 30mm tactical scope and to avoid the 8X32 1" which has even less adj and no way to compensate.

We are on the same page. I just choose to offer options in case someone has concerns. cost may also be a concern and these 1" scopes are a few hundred less.

Jerry
 
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