Sub Compact Bolt Action Rifles - Why?
- Thread starter cycoblade
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So, basically an xp100 with a folding stock and magazine. I can see the use where portability is prime, and the short barreled xp100's I've owned have all been accurate. - dan
Well, the initial XP100 were sort of a bullpup layout, no? Bullpup bolt actions are a bit oddball (do we even have any in Canada?), but that would interest me more than simply slapping a short barrel and collapsing stock on a standard receiver.
Thanks for posting that Tiriaq, I had not seen that stock design before!
It looks like a very solid way to design a folding stock that is rock solid when deployed.
I'd like to see a stock company make a modern version of that design for common bolt action rifles.
The main stock is a clamshell. The action is supported on strong trunnions that fit between the halves. The stock folds for transport. It is solid when fully deployed, but it is not quick. The magazine is integral to the stock, not detachable. The little spigot accepts one of those clamp-on M-16 bipods. I replaced one with a spigot that would accept the Parker Hale unit. The brake is effective and makes shooting the rifle quite comfortable.
George Kellgren has come up with some pretty interesting designs, I couldn't remember his name and had to look it up... I didn't realize he was Swedish.
It would be cool to have a non clamb shell front portion with a drop in fit and keep the folding mechanism, pistol grip and butt stock the same.
It would be cool to have a non clamb shell front portion with a drop in fit and keep the folding mechanism, pistol grip and butt stock the same.
Sort of, the bolt handle was placed behind the gun's balance point. First versions had the dogleg bolt handle, lateR veRsions a 700/7 style. - dan
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I'm glad that somebody likes them, there's room for all sorts of enthusiasms in the shooting sports. But I do wonder what they're good for, or do better than something else? They pretty much define the term "ugly rifle" in my eyes. They'd have to do something really well for me to ever want one.
As has been said a few times now, it's for free people that are allowed to attach basic technology to the end of the barrel to reduce noise pollution.
These devices are typically 4-8 inches in length so reducing a compact rifle's barrel by a similar amount results in a win win if that's your thing and you live in a country that respects your freedom and choices.
Some people like the handling of 16-18 inch barrels over say 22-24" barrels.... it's as simple as that, but you need to imagine being "allowed" to have a suppressor to fully comprehend why a 12" threaded barrel might be attractive.
Suppressors have been quite trendy down south for the last 10 years or so and the industry is designing guns around that trend.
I purchased the BCL Bronco in 308 and a 12.5” barrel. I’m starting to like compact rifles the more I get older. Easy to maneuver in my ground blind and in a stand. Fits in my hiking pack with no barrel exposed ( when collapsed ). If the pic shows up, the BCL is fully extended….. the 10/22 clone is there for comparison. I’ve only grouped it once so far in -20c weather but it looks very promising
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If we were allowed to use suppressors, I'd have to rethink my opinion of their style. I have hunted in Germany and South Africa with rifles that had suppressors added onto standard length barrels. They were quiet, but way too muzzle heavy, too long, and too heavy. Hmm. If the Canadian rules changed, these rifles might have merit. But for now, I'll pass on their lack of style and their extreme muzzle blast and poor muzzle-light balance.
I hear you. I’m not into military look but I also ( for my use ) take practicality into consideration. So for me, this gun fit the bill. As for muzzle lightness…… the Bronco/Bison chassis’s are anything but. I was surprised at that actually. It was after I handled the gun I became a believer. The ergonomics are very well thought out. Also nice to handle different breeds of firearms…… each one has a different character
I think it's the modularity with AR grips and stocks and the fact that AR's are the most popular sporting rifle in the US.
I agree with you on the preference for a more traditional style stock for hunting and also prefer less metal for cold weather.
