Subsonic rounds

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Hi All, I recently purchased some Remington CBee22 rounds ( subsonic ). On the box it says not to use in a semi-auto firearm. The dealer at the store said it should not be an issue with my Ruger 10/22 carbine. So I loaded a couple up to see how they sound, which I found was loud. But I noticed that when fired the shell casing does not eject from rifle, the bolt needs to be pulled back manually and then the casing gets ejected. Is this normal for subsonic rounds since the do not use gunpowder and cause it not to eject? or am I wrong. I also bought some Remington Thunderbolt .22 ammo but have not tried it yet.

Take is easy on me this is my first gun and first time buying ammo.
 
If I'm not mistaken, that's Remington's super-quiet ammo..not unlike CCI's "CB Long", except not as good a quality. If it is, then you bought an ammo. that won't cycle the action on any semi-auto rifle. Generally speaking, subsonic ammo will work in .22 semis (did in my 10/22 when I had it, and does in my Marlin 795) but Remington and CCI each make ammunition that is meant to be low-powered, and fired from a mechanically operated gun. Bolt action, pump, lever, break barrel, etc. I think you found Remington's offering.

If your gun is clean and in good working order, just don't use that ammo. Pick something with a little more punch. In simple terms, you're after ammo that shoots in the 1100 fps range +/- if you want to stick with the lower-noise options. All .22s make a bit of noise though, so if you found that Remington stuff objectionable, you'd better pick-up some hearing protection. Also, I tend to stay away from Remington .22lr ammo. Tends to be dirty, and inconsistent. I shoot mostly CCI and Federal.

Good luck!
 
Remington CBee22 rounds are low powered and don't have enough energy to fully cycle the action in a semi-auto. They where made to be fired in a bolt action rifle. You can still use them in a semi-auto, you just need to cycle them manually. The CCI sub-sonic do cycle in my semi-auto.
 
My local dealer told me to stay away from subsonic in semi's. Don't make enough force to cycle the next round. I high velocity CCI or Federal bulk pack stuff for cheap target shooting.

Of course there are two folks posting above me that say there are subsonics that can cycle in semi's. I'monna try them out soon... maybe my dealer was mistaken as well/ doesn't carry the good stuff?
 
cci blazer is a pretty good cheap slow standard that works great in just about any .22lr. i think it has something to do with the 40gr bullet, helps keep more gas in the chamber to cycle the action. cci also generally makes the best quality rounds i think.

blazer is rated for 1265fps also.
 
Just for info sake, most standard velocity target ammo is sub sonic as well. The CB caps are meant as an extra quiet round and are well under the sonic threshold, especially in longer barrel rifles.


Mark
 
I got a henry semi. Sub sonics and target loads will not cycle it. I keep one mag loaded with stingers and the other mag cci cb longs and manually cycle it. Great for grouse. All my other 22s love cb longs. Very quiet very accurate
 
MekongHaze said:
Hi All, I recently purchased some Remington CBee22 rounds ( subsonic ). On the box it says not to use in a semi-auto firearm. The dealer at the store said it should not be an issue with my Ruger 10/22 carbine. So I loaded a couple up to see how they sound, which I found was loud. But I noticed that when fired the shell casing does not eject from rifle, the bolt needs to be pulled back manually and then the casing gets ejected. Is this normal for subsonic rounds since the do not use gunpowder and cause it not to eject? or am I wrong. I also bought some Remington Thunderbolt .22 ammo but have not tried it yet.

Take is easy on me this is my first gun and first time buying ammo.
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It says not to use them in a semi auto, because they do not reliably cycle all semi's. Nothing more to it than that. The warning on the box is there to cut down on the whining from guys that somehow didn't think the laws of physics applied to them or their property.

There have been a few semi auto rimfires that will cycle on pretty much anything you feed them, but they are the exception rather than the rule.

Was there some reason you chose that ammo, besides the need to be different? It is not meant for more or less regular usages.

The Remington Subsonics (which are not what you had), I have it on good authority, will reliably cycle my friend's 10-22. He likes them for gophers. Same with almost every loading labeled as "target" or "Standard Velocity".

Cut to the chase. Buy some Long Rifle ammo, and go to the range. If you have a semi auto, it was designed to be fed LR ammo, and that is what it should get if you expect to shoot it much without using it as a slow manual repeater.

Cheers
Trev
 
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