Success with angle cut ceramic media in 308 Win.

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I've been experimenting with the "clean and cheap" solution mentioned in this article: http://www.6mmbr.com/ultrasonic.html

I've been using it in the vibrating tumbler (UV-18 industrial) with 1mm beads. It works well, but takes a long time. One thing that I notice is that this solution makes the carbon inside and in the primer pocket completely soft. I can wipe it out completely with just a Q-tip (soak a case and try it).

The problem was that the 1mm beads aren't agitating things enough to get the carbon off quickly (was leaving them in overnight). So, I put 200 cases in the rotary Thumler's and added 2 cups of water, 2 cups of vinegar and a drop of dawn. I let this run for and hour and a half then checked on it. The case necks were completely clean and the inside of the cases were pretty good too. However, the primer pockets were virtually untouched.

So, I added about 1.5-2 cups of angle cut ceramic media and let it go for another two hours. Just checked on it. The primer pockets and insides of the cases are about 90% clean with just a few spots of carbon. The angle cut ceramic media is doing a great job of scraping off the soft carbon but it is so sparse that it isn't getting stuck in the cases at all. I can probably do 300 cases or more, but my thought was that I wanted stuff to really mix. It worked well.

The only media that got stuck was a broken piece that jammed sideways in a primer pocket. The trick is not to add much of it.

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Dumped in a basket just to show the ratio of cases-to-media.

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After a quick neutralizing in water with baking soda and then separating in the Dillon squirrel cage and toweling off.

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Primer pockets of 50 random cases.

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Necks

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Insides. The dots on the walls of some cases are reflections of the flash holes.

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Close-up.

2 hours with the angle cut media should be enough. There is a light film of carbon inside of the necks. I think that is a good thing. I always leave it alone (unless there are chunks of carbon) when I use the 1mm beads.
 
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They look great!
Another variation on cleaning is to wet tumble is a solution of water and dishwashing machine detergent with steel shot. After drying, tumble in corncob. The amount of sludge that is removed from the inside of the cases is amazing.
 
That looks terrific....I can get my 45-70 and other straight-walled cases as clean as that, but everytime I try cleaning cases with a shoulder the media builds up inside the case and plugs making it nearly impossible to remove.
Can that be my problem ?....using too much media in the tumbler ?
 
Did you try the angle cut in the vibrating tumbler or just the rotary. I have the same vibrating tumbler as you, but my rotating tumbler needs a motor.
 
Did you try the angle cut in the vibrating tumbler or just the rotary. I have the same vibrating tumbler as you, but my rotating tumbler needs a motor.


I did, but I cut them with 1mm ball so that they wouldn't get jammed. That prevents everything from jamming up in the rotary tumbler is that I didn't add much media or cases (didn't overload it), so that everything was really free to move around. The carbon gets so soft from the vinegar that you just need some swishing and something rubbing against it to take it off.

This is by far the quickest to tumble and easiest to separate afterwards. I'm going to try it with Tumble Bright solution so see if I can do away with the baking soda step.

Will probably sell the 1mm beads now...
 
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Update: I let this go for 6 hours and the cases came out completely shinny inside and out. The insides of the necks looked polished.

A single piece of media got stuck sideways in the bottom of about 20 cases out of 250. Not a big deal for me since I now do my case inspection after tumbling.
 
You can also get the angle cut stuff from Russel's. It is stocked as "ceramic media" in a Lyman box. A smallish box (suitable for a 1200) about 1-2 lb is $18.00).

It just says "ceramic media" on the box and there is no mention of angle cut, but when you open it, that's what it is. Might be easier than importing and paying shipping from Cabelas.
 
Have you thought of just trying some powdered laundry or dishwasher detergent, mixed with water, to see how it works?

Like about a teaspoon to a tablespoons worth?
 
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That is beautifual looking brass is it al Lapua?, i am going to try corn cob media next but i think i might run some of that cermaic in the future sure makes it look pretty:)....
 
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