suggest a calibre for Wild Boar?

The problem here is getting expanding ammo in exotic calibres, if you think none of the afore mentioned are exotic well think again I own what is possibly the last box of 20 soft point 150 grain .303 factory ammo in the south east of England. If its not .308, .270 or .243 its probably a handload only option. I need to ensure that if the stalker owns a suitable calibre that he has expanding ammo available as to get this added to your certificate isnt a straightforward job. here to own expanding ammo you have to demonstrate need and use so written permission for stalking is good. Then you justify each calibre and amount of ammo. you can own a sporting rifle forrange use but not the expanding as it is evil cop killer stuff and has been for at least 10 years. So if someone wants to hunt boar that means a varioation on their license unless we lie and risk getting caught. The police here are keen on applying conditions to your FAC, some are sensible such as new and novice shooters being accompanied when stalking and some are difficult to understand until you realise that the Police often know less than my kids about weapons. For example one stalker was allowed to use his .308 on any land he had permission but his 7.62 rifle (he only owned 1 rifle by the way) was deemed too powerful and had to be used from a high seat to ensure a safe back stop. I get my ammo allowances as 500 5.56 and additionally 450 .223 if you can work out why then you will understand why a dealer panicked selling me a Ruger 77 in .223 as my ticket was for rifle 5.56mm and called the police to explain!
We suffer from knowing more than the persons put there to ensure public safety and it causes as many problems for them as us. Taking the Firearms Licensing Boss to court here was ahobby of the local BASC Lawyer till the Cop was moved sideways in the department and an ex traffic cop (luckily known for following the letter of the law) replaced the man who thought he knew it all.
Still enough of that and thanks for your help. I am correct in assuming 12 g slugs first then a large .45 poss .45 70 and then a normal centrefire .30 06/.25 06. If that fails a pair of knitting needles and a sense of humour!
 
Jebus man!
Check your location on Google earth.
Make a cup of tea, and go for .303 British. :D

Hey my Brother in law wants to take me Boar hunting in Australia when I go visit.
The local butchers pay good money for what you catch. :)
 
TimC said:
I heard that the Australian wild pigs were parasitical and required thorough cooking before consumption. That puts a crimp on dry curing the hams and fancy bacon doesnt it?

So is Bear, but freezing will kill things off.
Besides it is probably sold to German restaurants in Europe. :D

A few pigs will pay for your whole trip. :)
 
Never got the knife thing?????? Always preferred killing my stuff without putting them through some "little bigman" hell. :confused:

Pick any caliber you can get your hands on and shoot them in the head/neck.

Pick a good light gathering scope because alot of boar hunting over there is done at night. I've just come back from Germany/Poland/Czech and that's what I was told.
 
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Well I have killed Russian Boars with shotguns, rifles and arrows and they are very tough. They have a protective sheath which is a layer of heavy cartlidge in between the hide and their vitals. Kinda like shooting through a layer of armor...
Shooting them in the head or neck is really dumb advice, I have seen them run for hours with an arrow right through the brain pan, one was ear to ear and another from nose to the base of the spine. Ask DarrylDB or Gatehouse they were both there for that pig hunt.:cool:
Hunting from an elevated blind over bait is certainly not going to be that dangerous and should allow for a well placed shot, so any well constructed bullet from a mid to heavy caliber center fire will do the job.
The two biggest Boars I killed were at a few feet with Buckshot while running backwards... not something to put on the top of your to-do list.:runaway:

P.S. If you think one is dead just cuz it is laying there with its eyes closed... think again... shoot it again. I'm serious.;)
 
They will hold tight in heavy cover(and let you go by), good binos to pick out body parts would be great. Hunt last light , and early morning when their on the move. Look for rooted up areas, lots of tracks, they will return to dig. :D
 
BIGREDD said:
Shooting them in the head or neck is really dumb advice, I have seen them run for hours with an arrow right through the brain pan, one was ear to ear and another from nose to the base of the spine.

Shooting a boar (or anything) in the head/neck with an ARROW is pretty much the dumbest thing I've ever heard anybody do. Completely different than the impact of a high power rifle.

Apples and oranges. :confused:

Tim - checkout some of the Texas wild boar hunting sites. Lots of good info on them. On a stand/feeder set up with relatively close shots at undisturbed animals most suggest putting a bullet anywhere along a line between the ear and shoulder.
 
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30-06.

Go to huntingfootage.com and visit their boar section. Some pretty cool movies in there, and will give you an idea of what calibre to use.
 
Ok as said before the long range stuff is out due topopulations nearby. I'll be recommending Either the rimmed or rimmless European large 9mm calibres or the US .45 calibres. Nothing smaller than 7mm and nothing with lots of range. Kind of pushes back towards shotguns doesnt it?
Thanks for the tip on the hunting web site, I'll check it out!
 
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Mauser98 said:
I think a 9.3X62 using 286 gr Nosler Partitions at around 2400 fps would be ideal.


I agree with Mauser98. I think the 9.3 x 62 would be ideal for this application. Components should be readily accessible from your point since the cartridge is widely used throughout Europe and, in particular, Germany Austria and the Scandinavian countries. From a number of different sources that I have read, the 9.3 x 62 is preferred by European hunters for just the application that you are refering to, shooting boars from a hide.

The 9.3 offers modest recoil with excellent sectional density and downrange energy for heavy game such as boars.

IMHO it is a great cartridge that is worth considering!

ms
 
i'm sure your .303 would get the job done with ease. but if i were to pick one rifle, it would probably be the .444 for this task. big fan of the .350 magnum here too, so i'm sure the 9.3x62 would be fantastic as well.

how close will you be from the boar do you think?
 
Killzone said:
Shooting a boar (or anything) in the head/neck with an ARROW is pretty much the dumbest thing I've ever heard anybody do. Completely different than the impact of a high power rifle..

Well spoken from somone who has obviously never been charged by a boar... :)
Shot placement isnt an option on a 35 mph animal that has you in its sights...
The neck was the only option at the time, and at 5 yards, I was running out of choices...
Killzone said:
Tim - checkout some of the Texas wild boar hunting sites. Lots of good info on them. On a stand/feeder set up with relatively close shots at undisturbed animals most suggest putting a bullet anywhere along a line between the ear and shoulder.
Bad advise also... I've shot a boar in the neck with a 300 win mag, and though it didnt go anywhere, it needed a follow up shot to kill.
treat the vitals of a boar like a deer, but 4-6 inches lower, and you'll have a dead pig for sure... to stop it, shoot low square in the shoulder, and you'll obliterate its heart, and shoulder.
I blew the lungs out of a trophy boar with a 180 gr failsafe, and it kept going like I spit at it...
it took one more in the heart before it expired...
Boars are tougher than most give them credit for...
Any place that I ever dealt with on boars had a minimum 30 cal restriction, and for good reason...
I'd definately adhere to it, though carrying a spear was much much more fun...
Anyone want to buy a boarspear? :popCorn:
 
Killzone said:
Pick any caliber you can get your hands on and shoot them in the head/neck.

Yup. I shot mine with a .22 in the head at about 10 yards. We were supposed to use a crossbow, but the guy who owned it never showed up.
.22 is all we had at the time. It worked, but had to get very close.
 
BIGREDD said:
P.S. If you think one is dead just cuz it is laying there with its eyes closed... think again... shoot it again. I'm serious.;)
Yeah, if they are on their belly looking dead, they arent until their on their side.
They will lie down, and wait for a last strike opportunity. If its on its belly laying down, shoot it again. This little guy below did just that. It looked dead, but sure as hell wasnt

And some folks say boars cant turn their body/head fast...
This guy was a perfect broadside shot at under 20 yards (standing) infront of the fastest crossbow on the market, and he turned on the snap of the string, and took it in the nose. @ over 350 fps, the boar was still faster.
(the dates are wrong on these photo's)
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Another testiment to how tought these animals are...
This pic is of a 200 odd pound sow that had a huge gash under her jaw that was healed, but open into her mouth under her tongue.
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Here is the skull of a 260 odd pound boar with a 30-06 for comparison
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They sure are fun to hunt, and Im jealous at your opportunity...
whatever calibre you choose, tell us how it goes will ya:)
 
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While in Tennesse I took a nice razorback in 1981 using a S&W M-29-2 .44 Mag ,6 1/2" barrel and 240 grain Barnes original.Boar was about 275 lb. and dropped at the shot where the hit was broadside at 30 yards,clean through the heart/lung area with no bullet recovery but it did the job.Obviously a rifle in the UK is your only centerfire choice and that type of combo won't fail you provided you do your part.The chops were fantastic and the hams were smoked.Just yummy!!!!!!!!
 
m1978 said:
i'm sure your .303 would get the job done with ease. but if i were to pick one rifle, it would probably be the .444 for this task. big fan of the .350 magnum here too, so i'm sure the 9.3x62 would be fantastic as well.

how close will you be from the boar do you think?
I agree with the 303. You want penetration plus on those big boars! When I lived in NZ, the 303 was the weapon of choice, esp for those who did not use a knife!!:D:D:dancingbanana:
 
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