Suggestions for a First Rimfire?

Man I'm torn on the CZ stuff. Agree we all need to decide what that means, has a bit of a "bite off your nose to spite your face" feel to it with our market already so small/available options relatively few. They also can't be rewarded for profiting off our lawless government either.

For me-anything new from CZ ain't happening until I hear/read what CZ has to say about all of this. Not looking good, they look like they're up to their neck in it. :( If so, pretty massive oversight/very bad read on the sensibilities of Canadian gun owners.
 
.22LRGUY said:
Man I'm torn on the CZ stuff. Agree we all need to decide what that means, has a bit of a "bite off your nose to spite your face" feel to it with our market already so small/available options relatively few. They also can't be rewarded for profiting off our lawless government either.

For me-anything new from CZ ain't happening until I hear/read what CZ has to say about all of this. Not looking good, they look like they're up to their neck in it. :( If so, pretty massive oversight/very bad read on the sensibilities of Canadian gun owners.
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Same.
They have the opportunity to come out and make things clear.
They haven’t yet as far as I know.
Util they do tho……….
 
the guy asked about a bolt gun and the first comment is a 10/22 ?
as far as the comments about levers and semi's and what have you
simply disregard them
people can't even stay on topic
cz , tikka T1 ruger american
stay away from savage or lake field
as far as vintage win 69a
pay the money and have a life time rifle likely 2 life times
 
Wildtrip0d said:
Looking to start journey into shooting. Considering a start with a 22LR bolt action, ideally with iron sights to start.

Any feedback or suggestions on the way to go?

Cheers,
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Savage II or the Scorpio are good rifles for the money, the savage has more aftermarket options available. Good used Brno 2 or CZ 452 or 455; I won't advise to buy a new CZ in light of heir participation in the gun grab. Other great rifles kicking around when you can find them, either used or surplus. I recently picked up a TOZ single shot, and set it up for target shooting... and it really shoots! First photo below is what I did with a used 455 with a damaged stock, and the next one is the TOZ (the target below it is 5" shot from a bag at 100 yards, first trip out with the aperture sights.)

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struff55 said:
the guy asked about a bolt gun and the first comment is a 10/22 ?
as far as the comments about levers and semi's and what have you
simply disregard them
people can't even stay on topic
cz , tikka T1 ruger american
stay away from savage or lake field
as far as vintage win 69a
pay the money and have a life time rifle likely 2 life times
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The lever with iron sights is something to have forever, the suggestion comes cause of his desire for iron sights on his bolt key words being "to start" why get a sub teir bolt with irons, when he could start with something that will stay good with irons, and get a better bolt action with a scope later, just my opinion for sure, he can ignore me if he chooses
 
fred0000 said:
The lever with iron sights is something to have forever, the suggestion comes cause of his desire for iron sights on his bolt key words being "to start" why get a sub teir bolt with irons, when he could start with something that will stay good with irons, and get a better bolt action with a scope later, just my opinion for sure, he can ignore me if he chooses
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the question was about bolt action with iron sights a comment that is irrelevant to the question is just that
 
struff55 said:
the guy asked about a bolt gun and the first comment is a 10/22 ?
as far as the comments about levers and semi's and what have you
simply disregard them
people can't even stay on topic
cz , tikka T1 ruger american
stay away from savage or lake field
as far as vintage win 69a
pay the money and have a life time rifle likely 2 life times
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1022 fan-boys are omnipresent. I rarely see one at a competition, most of them jam, some jam often. Accuracy can be good, but not consistently across the model.

New shooters need a reliable firearm so they don't become discouraged.

I have owned many semi-auto rifles over they years, now the only one I have, I can not use. I still have 3 semi-auto pistols... and two revolvers.
 
struff55 said:
the question was about bolt action with iron sights a comment that is irrelevant to the question is just that
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Likely they wanted a bolt, for slower fire more accurate shooting, also less picky on ammo.

So bolt, lever or pump would be the same.

That being said. I got 8 or 9 22s. From Toz, to Anschutz. Came 2nd with my Savage MK2. Likeky looking to add a couple more.
 
Meroh said:
1022 fan-boys are omnipresent. I rarely see one at a competition, most of them jam, some jam often. Accuracy can be good, but not consistently across the model.

New shooters need a reliable firearm so they don't become discouraged.

I have owned many semi-auto rifles over they years, now the only one I have, I can not use. I still have 3 semi-auto pistols... and two revolvers.
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Last shoot I went to, there were at least 4 or 5. None were close to middle of the pack. Just people often shoot too fast.

There are days mine will shoot just around 5/8" at 50, it never does better than 2inch at 100. Now Ive have used mine in matches and scored few points less than what Ive do with my bolts. Mainly because I forgot off hand shoots off a bit than bench and often forget to comp.

Why I just keep 1 gun sighted for 25. My anschutz I never use as they're just heavy for off hand. And then my apetures dont do well with holding off.

Why I never worry about 1 and done, as youll get more down the road.
 
Everyone I have introduced to shooting with the Cooey 39 tells me years later they really liked that gun and they don't know what it was called. The act of inserting one round, cocking the firing pin, and releasing the volley, then ejecting the casing, makes them feel like they were there in every part of the action.

10/22 is fine as a valued gun, but everything you want to do is held up by some switch and they can't remember which does what and exactly how to push or pull it. By the time they are going bang, bang, bang with ease, they forget what allowed that to happen. If you were driving with a 10/22, you wanted to make a left turn, but you try to turn on your headlights, then turn on the wipers, then right signal, then left signal, and eventually you're ready to do the turn. What exactly worked? If you see what I mean.
 
Lightweight semi auto's are super fun! No they're not as accurate or reliable as a bolt gun but in my opinion everyone should have both!

Shooting steel and plinking around is great fun! Especially if you have a few spinner targets, a dueling tree or KYL targets etc.
 
The problem with cci standard velocity is it is slightly over sized and cz has too tight a match chamber. SK rifle match is nice and accurate in the cz.

Reports are Tikka likes cci sv. There can be flyers but it is an accurate budget friendly and widely available ammo.
 
labradort said:
Everyone I have introduced to shooting with the Cooey 39 tells me years later they really liked that gun and they don't know what it was called. The act of inserting one round, cocking the firing pin, and releasing the volley, then ejecting the casing, makes them feel like they were there in every part of the action.

10/22 is fine as a valued gun, but everything you want to do is held up by some switch and they can't remember which does what and exactly how to push or pull it. By the time they are going bang, bang, bang with ease, they forget what allowed that to happen. If you were driving with a 10/22, you wanted to make a left turn, but you try to turn on your headlights, then turn on the wipers, then right signal, then left signal, and eventually you're ready to do the turn. What exactly worked? If you see what I mean.
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My introduction was on an old Cooey Mohawk., same size as a 39, but shorter length of pull. I agree, you were aware of what is going on with every aspect of the shooting process.
 
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