Suggestions for my new CZ Shadow please

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Hi,

I'm planning on using this Shadow in IPSC, and I'm wondering what I might be able to do to the out-of-the-box Shadow to improve it? My trigger pull right now is around 4.25LB, and I'd like it to be lighter. Although I've been told that this is not an open gun, I'm thinking that I'd like to put a C-More on it, and compete open. I have some vision issues with presbyopia, and the red-dot would make that much nicer.

Any things I should look at doing? Different spring?

Thanks,

Rob
 
Install a competition hammer, #13 main spring and if shooting factory ammo, #14 recoil spring. If reloading light, #11 recoil spring.

Shadow in open? Why not! You will be shooting a minor load ya know?
 
StoneHorse said:
Install a competition hammer, #13 main spring and if shooting factory ammo, #14 recoil spring. If reloading light, #11 recoil spring.

Shadow in open? Why not! You will be shooting a minor load ya know?
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Yes, I know. I just figure at this point I need to learn the game. At some point, I'll go for an open gun in a major power.

Thanks for the info. Where's the best place in the Toronto area to get the parts? And are they self-installable? I installed a rifle basix trigger on my Stevens 200 action, so I'm game to try if it's doable.

Rob
 
Stock the DA is up around 8lbs. I installed the milder main spring and did the polishing and some other light trimming suggested in one of the online writeups about the Shadow. I don't have the URL for this since it was on my other computer that blew up a few months back. But a bit of googling for "shadow trigger mods" or similar should turn it up. It wasn't hard to find.

For converting to open you'll need to have the frame drilled and tapped to accept the sight mounting bracket. Frankly if you're going to go that route and basically ruin your resale value I'd suggest getting a different gun that is already set up for mounting the red dots. Drilling your Shadow for this will ruin the resale value and it still won't be as good an open gun as the other options would be. Either keep it for the excellent fun or Production gun that it is or sell it to fund the purchase of a dedicated Open gun.

Besides, I'm assuming this is not your first ever hand gun. If you are able to shoot semi decent size groups out to around 20 yards then you would not do that poorly in the Production class since you just need to be able to aim at the general center of the target. It's all good if it's in the Alpha zone, even the ones just barely touching the lines.
 
Quigley said:
If you follow that to the letter (including sanding the sear) your gun is no longer Production legal in IPSC...

You can smooth out parts...but to can't re-profile anything (ie. adjust the contact angles)
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That's true, but the Shadow sear already has the "corrected" angle. That link was for doing a job on the regular 75b which has a lot of hammer lift as the trigger is pulled.
 
BCRider said:
For converting to open you'll need to have the frame drilled and tapped to accept the sight mounting bracket. Frankly if you're going to go that route and basically ruin your resale value I'd suggest getting a different gun that is already set up for mounting the red dots. Drilling your Shadow for this will ruin the resale value and it still won't be as good an open gun as the other options would be. Either keep it for the excellent fun or Production gun that it is or sell it to fund the purchase of a dedicated Open gun.
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One of the gents I shoot with in IPSC has a sight mount that slides onto the slide rail of the shadow and mounts there very nicely. Wouldn't this also be an option? I can't remember the brand of it.

As for the spring and hammer discussion I picked up a couple of 13lbs springs and a CZ custom competition hammer and when I went to have both installed I was told that a bit of work would have to be done to install the hammer and the gunsmith who did the work said he liked the way the gun felt with just the spring and told me to just try it that way and decide if I wanted to still have the hammer installed. After shooting with the 13lbs spring I must say it makes quite a noticeable difference and after simply dry firing my shadow one of the other guys bought one of my other springs on the spot to install in his shadow having liked the way it felt so much.

So I say try with just the spring changed first and if you still want to go with the hammer too, just send me a PM and I will sell you mine :)
 
Well, when fitting Comp Hammer, you need to modify safety, not the hammer itself, you need to either understand or know what you are doing as you can actually 'disable' safety all together.

Otherwise, what Stone said.
 
"#13 main spring and if shooting factory ammo, #14 recoil spring."

Are the two spring recommendations going to change the performance of the gun significantly (i.e., if it's 4.25lbs SA stock, what would be it after replacement)? Rob Yale asked the exact question I had in mind as I have a stock CZ Shadow, I was wondering if someone could tell me if the tweaks would be noticeably or subtle.

Also, I'm not sure if the designations (#13, #14) are CZ-specific terms or general references used for all aftermarket springs. I'd like to lighten the recoil spring and lighten/smooth out the trigger but retain the ability to function with factory ammo (i.e. WWB).
 
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