Suggestions for shooting practice , for hunting?

conor_90 said:
Brobee, still very interested in seeing more half sized poster targets from you.

I have shot the bears so much I am using the nose as an indicator for the location of the heart and lungs, cheating, I need some new targets!
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Flattered you're still pounding away at those bear targets!

Last year I knuckled down and ground out about a dozen different woodcut target designs. I then got a bunch of quotations from printing companies to print them on 14"x19" paper then package shrink-wrapped against a single piece of cardboard.

Long story made short - they would require an approximate $3800 investment to get a run of 1000 packages done up, which would fill my garage up bigtime until I managed to score store placement with someone like Cabelas or Bass Pro. Economics improve somewhat if I commit to 5,000 units. Still thinking about it, but in the context of something bigger (think - create a community) which has a bunch of other steps that I would have to do first. Shipping them economically is almost out of the question unless it's by the pallet going to a monster-store somewhere.

If you're still super-interested, shoot me a pm as I can likely find a way to supply you with some 11x17 one-off woodcuts.

Cheers,

Brobee
 
I think Brobee,s and Doglegs suggestion to shoot at some sort of formal shooting match is a good one .It is amazing how reliable rifles malfunction and skilled marksmen hands begin to shake when tested in front of others. I would also suggest picking up a copy of Jeff Coopers "The Art Of The Rifle" it has a section on shooting drills and what a good performance would be.
 
Brobee, is that the size of the poster bear targets at tse?

It's too bad the about the logistics. I was hoping we could start up a poster club and make you a little cash at the same time.
 
c-fbmi said:
I grew up in Calgary during a time when jack rabbits were plentiful east of town on the prairies. I used to go out every single night after work until dark with my 243 and shoot jacks, badgers, gophers, coyotes and pretty much any varmint that was seen. Running jacks are quite likely the best practice any one can get and there were lots back then and no one minded us shooting them. I shot more than 10,000 rounds from my 243 in about 3 years and completely shot it out. But let me tell you, it was like an extension of my body and no running jack inside 200+ mtrs stood much of a chance.
Yep used to shoot 200 rounds a night till dark, about 10 O'clock and then head back in and load till 1:00 am and do it again the next evening and every Sat and Sun all day..........girlfriends didn't hang around very long back in them days, never really figured out why.
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c-fbmi, that is experience that very few of us on this site have had or could ever hope to have. I do get chances to shoot my 243 at coyotes running ahead of hounds from time to time...........hit some, miss more !!! These coyotes normally have a comfortable lead over the hounds, so are not "sprinting".....just doing normal coyote speed that they plan to keep up for a few miles. Would you start by trying a coyote length of lead(approx 3 feet) for every 100 yards of distance ??

I know that you could likely write a book on all this, but I am just looking for a little guidance on shooting a rifle at running coyotes over distance.

I have shot clay targets and flying game birds for 50 years plus, but not so much shooting rifle in situations described above.
 
I loved brobee's challenge..... as I recall, I kicked a$$ and took names with one rifle, which was promptly proceeded by completely soiling the sheets on attempt two...... I am likely on both ends of that demographic chart..... lol
 
Slooshark1 said:
Dry fire at home with snap caps with a concentrated effort on the fundamentals of shooting. You should have 4 dry fire sessions at home for every 1 live fire range session. Try it for 30 days and see what happens. Listen to Chris Sajnog's book "Navy Seal Shooting" for the details. I did last year and after 35 years of shooting, I could not believe how much I was able to improve in a very short time. I was rewarded by dropping 2 of the biggest whitetail bucks I've ever taken.
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What he said x2
 
Try going out with a friend with 22's on a windy day walk around the bush shooting cones off trees. Get a competition going maybe even a little money involved:)
 
bjake said:
Try going out with a friend with 22's on a windy day walk around the bush shooting cones off trees. Get a competition going maybe even a little money involved:)
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Yes a friendly rimfire competition with my brother inlaw may be on deck for this weekend. Perhaps brobee's shooting challenge with the centerfire as well? We'll see what the weather is doing. Thanks for your suggestions to all that commented.
 
Whatever drills you run, find a way to score yourself consistently and record the results. Never let unrepeatable data go to waste. Seeing yourself improve steadily is a satisfying feeling.
 
cdn1canhunt said:
Yes a friendly rimfire competition with my brother inlaw may be on deck for this weekend. Perhaps brobee's shooting challenge with the centerfire as well? We'll see what the weather is doing. Thanks for your suggestions to all that commented.
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If you run the Brobee challenge (and I'd be thrilled if you did!), please PM me your results (# hits, total time) with a bit of info about your rifle and I'll add them to my database. Rest assured I would maintain absolute confidentiality as to your results, as such I'm interested in all results...even poor scores. Results from multiple tests are also welcome.

Cheers,

Brobee
 
conor_90 said:
Brobee, is that the size of the poster bear targets at tse?

It's too bad the about the logistics. I was hoping we could start up a poster club and make you a little cash at the same time.
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If I recall correctly the bear targets were 22x28, so slightly larger than the 14x19 I had planned. I would have loved to do the poster club and was pretty pumped to try and set it up, but I almost cr@pped my pants when I found out how expensive it was to send stuff in a mailing tube, even after setting up a business account.
 
For me with the 22 250 at 100 yards a running coyotes I pull the trigger the second I see the fur on the front shoulder. No three foot lead in front of them. With slug gun.lol on deer at 100 yards pull for the nose and follow threw.
 
dutchhunter said:
For me with the 22 250 at 100 yards a running coyotes I pull the trigger the second I see the fur on the front shoulder. No three foot lead in front of them. With slug gun.lol on deer at 100 yards pull for the nose and follow threw.
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I think the follow through is the key, but if they are full out, beyond 100yrds you will have to consider some lead.
 
My pre-practicing is playing on my personal range, shooting from
Various positions, with a lot of off-hand at the 220 yard gong. Position and bipod shooting out to 800 yards, mostly at steel targets. The division between playing, working on loads and equipment and practicing is sort of blurry.

The real "practice" is searching out areas of the world with serious big game and feral population problems
and insert myself into the situation. The lines between culling, management , practice , bullet testing, and hunting get a little blurry. I wouldn't recommend it for everyone.



After that, most hunting shots are sort of routine.
 
Dogleg said:
My pre-practicing is playing on my personal range, shooting from
Various positions, with a lot of off-hand at the 220 yard gong. Position and bipod shooting out to 800 yards, mostly at steel targets. The division between playing, working on loads and equipment and practicing is sort of blurry.

The real "practice" is searching out areas of the world with serious big game and feral population problems
and insert myself into the situation. The lines between culling, management , practice , bullet testing, and hunting get a little blurry. I wouldn't recommend it for everyone.



After that, most hunting shots are sort of routine.
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I was very dissapointed to see you had posted in here and not see a pic of the "white ghost buffalo"..... lol
 
dutchhunter said:
Not at over 3500 fps
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cdn1canhunt said:
Ya even at 3500fps.....I know I was behind one I shot at 4 times last Sat and I was 1/2-3/4 body length in front of him. And my 75gr V-max are running about 3400fps outa my .243. I did manage to get him but was leading it by 1 1/2 body lengths.
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It takes a 3500fps bullet 0.093 seconds to reach 100 yards (300ft)

A coyote can run 40mph (59fps)

In 0.093 seconds the coyote will travel 5.456 feet.

Unfortunately, a 22-250 can't shoot faster than math.
 
Besides agreeing with the many excellent suggestions for practise shooting stationary targets that were posted previously, I believe the ability to hit moving game with a rifle is very important skill for a fully competent hunter.

I grew up shooting running varmints and rabbits and coyotes with various rifles. That opportunity doesn't exist for most urban people.

The best practise I have had in a simulation was a shooting cinema in Germany. They projected a video image of the critter of your choice, you shot at the screen with your regular hunting rifle and ammo. With your buddies watching. And a judge keeping score. The score was to qualify you for being invited on a driven game hunt in a city forest. We had to hit a minimum of 5/8 vital hits on running boars to qualify.
Excellent practise, very realistic, lots of friendly pressure, and loads of fun. Wish we had something similar here.
 
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