Suggestions needed! (.22lr, 9mm, .45acp)
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My suggestion is to have different gun for 9mm and .22LR.
That way you can bring both to the range and shoot at your pleasure, without having to keep taking them apart and assemble again.
Rimfire pistols:
Ruger Mark III,
Browning Buck Mark,
Smith & Wesson mod. 41 which is king of the hill at triple the price of previous two handguns.
9mm pistols:
CZ Shadow, CZ75 or CZ85
Beretta 92FS or Beretta 92FS Inox
SIG, which is most expensive of the bunch.
Any of the above mentioned in any combination desired will start you off in good stead with your handgun hobby
If at all possible, go to 'rental' range, where you can pay the fee and shoot most of this handguns under the instructors scrutiny.
That will give you good idea what works best for you.
Good luck!
That way you can bring both to the range and shoot at your pleasure, without having to keep taking them apart and assemble again.
Rimfire pistols:
Ruger Mark III,
Browning Buck Mark,
Smith & Wesson mod. 41 which is king of the hill at triple the price of previous two handguns.
9mm pistols:
CZ Shadow, CZ75 or CZ85
Beretta 92FS or Beretta 92FS Inox
SIG, which is most expensive of the bunch.
Any of the above mentioned in any combination desired will start you off in good stead with your handgun hobby
If at all possible, go to 'rental' range, where you can pay the fee and shoot most of this handguns under the instructors scrutiny.
That will give you good idea what works best for you.
Good luck!
IMHO,
CZ Shadow with Kadet kit (takes less than 15 sec to convert from 9mm to .22LR) and your choice of 1911. 2 guns, and 3 calibers to shoot.
Or,
CZ75B or 75B SA in .40s&w, 9mm conversion barrel ($200), Kadet .22LR kit, and your choice of 1911. Effectively giving you 2 pistols and 4 calibers to shoot.
CZ Shadow with Kadet kit (takes less than 15 sec to convert from 9mm to .22LR) and your choice of 1911. 2 guns, and 3 calibers to shoot.
Or,
CZ75B or 75B SA in .40s&w, 9mm conversion barrel ($200), Kadet .22LR kit, and your choice of 1911. Effectively giving you 2 pistols and 4 calibers to shoot.
Lots of the love for the CZs here, it seems 
I haven't met anyone that have shot CZs that do not recommend them... they seem to be good, reliable, and good valued pistols. Hmmm something to consider for sure.
Does anyone have actual experience in using any of the pistols I mentioned in my post?
oh and please keep the suggestions coming
I haven't met anyone that have shot CZs that do not recommend them... they seem to be good, reliable, and good valued pistols. Hmmm something to consider for sure. Does anyone have actual experience in using any of the pistols I mentioned in my post?
oh and please keep the suggestions coming
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Option A.
At least that's what I'd do if I had the extra money.
At least that's what I'd do if I had the extra money.
If you don't get into shooting in one of the competition disclipines you'll be missing out on about 85% of the fun of owning a hand gun.
I'd say get a .22 for cheap shooting and as a tool for learning to cure a flinch and get a 9mm that fits into IPSC production class. That way if you change your mind about only standing still and perforating paper and want to get into competition shooting you'll be set as far as a gun goes.
The 1911 is also a must because anyone with handguns really should own one. I think it's a rule in some book I read...
If you're using the .22 for learning to shoot well and to avoid ol' man Flinch then a big part of the cure is being able to shoot some .22 and then immediately pick up the center fire gun and shoot some center fire while the bad habits are gone for the moment. If you have to stop and swap top ends the flow is badly interrupted and it would soon become a pain to keep swapping all the time. So separate guns is actually better.
And separate guns is better anyway. That way you have more guns! ! ! !
I'd say get a .22 for cheap shooting and as a tool for learning to cure a flinch and get a 9mm that fits into IPSC production class. That way if you change your mind about only standing still and perforating paper and want to get into competition shooting you'll be set as far as a gun goes.
The 1911 is also a must because anyone with handguns really should own one. I think it's a rule in some book I read...
If you're using the .22 for learning to shoot well and to avoid ol' man Flinch then a big part of the cure is being able to shoot some .22 and then immediately pick up the center fire gun and shoot some center fire while the bad habits are gone for the moment. If you have to stop and swap top ends the flow is badly interrupted and it would soon become a pain to keep swapping all the time. So separate guns is actually better.
And separate guns is better anyway. That way you have more guns! ! ! !
I may get into competition shooting but for now it's just for punching holes in paper targets
I think I like having separate guns too, as it is less of a hassle to quickly switch between them without having to swap the barrel and slide. Option A is only appealing because I'm basically getting a .22lr pistol for free...
I think I like having separate guns too, as it is less of a hassle to quickly switch between them without having to swap the barrel and slide. Option A is only appealing because I'm basically getting a .22lr pistol for free...
I have not looked at the kits lately, but most of the 22 conversion kits (of any realy qulaity) are as much as an inexpensive 22 pistol. That being said of of the guys at the range has a CZ Shadow with the conversion kit and he loves it since he gets more trigger time with the fire control.
I grew up shooting 22 pistol, but hardly touch mine now. I find if I do want to try to control any flinch that rears it's ugly head, I have a shooting companion stick dummy rounds in my mag to test me. The other option for that is a revolver with only 4 chambers loaded.
Thanks guys! That GSG 1911 .22lr does seem like a great alternative to all those Rugers out there, and I like how it's well, a 1911 design
Keep 'em coming. This is great stuff!
I read that Norinco/Regent make some great 1911s in .45acp as well, and although the finish's not good when compared to higher end 1911s, they seem to be reliable and shoot well. Anyone has experience with those 1911s?
Keep 'em coming. This is great stuff!
I read that Norinco/Regent make some great 1911s in .45acp as well, and although the finish's not good when compared to higher end 1911s, they seem to be reliable and shoot well. Anyone has experience with those 1911s?
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Thanks guys! That GSG 1911 .22lr does seem like a great alternative to all those Rugers out there, and I like how it's well, a 1911 design
Keep 'em coming. This is great stuff!
I read that Norinco/Regent make some great 1911s in .45acp as well, and although the finish's not good when compared to higher end 1911s, they seem to be reliable and shoot well. Anyone has experience with those 1911s?
My buddy has a norc 1911. It shoots straight and goes bang everytime you pull the trigger. It doesn't quite fit my hands as nice as my Sig 1911, but at the end of the day, it's an excellent shooter and it always works. Can't go wrong with norinco.
Thanks guys! That GSG 1911 .22lr does seem like a great alternative to all those Rugers out there, and I like how it's well, a 1911 design
Keep 'em coming. This is great stuff!
I read that Norinco/Regent make some great 1911s in .45acp as well, and although the finish's not good when compared to higher end 1911s, they seem to be reliable and shoot well. Anyone has experience with those 1911s?
If you are thinking SA loaded, don't go for the norinco. The SA is an excellent choice!
I do agree with previous post that you would be missing out if you don't compete in some way. IPSC/IDPA all the way!
What about getting one higher priced gun (ie: SA Loaded) and a .22lr for lots of practice and cheaper shooting for feeding the .45 piglet?
That seems to be the consensus from most Norinco 1911 owners. Does anyone know if the Regent 1911 is basically the same gun as the Norinco, but made in Turkey?
I thought about that - get a .22lr and a .45 and be done with it, but then I'd be missing out on the ever-so-popular 9mm!
I'm leaning towards this option too, but now that I have some cheaper 1911 alternatives, I think I might go with Option C (lol more options is good) - Sig P226 .22lr + Jericho 941 9mm + Norinco/Regent/equivalent 1911s .45. If I ever get sick of shooting .22s on that Sig, a 9mm/.40/.45 conversion kit will give me a brand new gun in yet another caliber!
Of course! I did some homework before posting this thread so I know what I want already, but it never hurts to get some feedback and opinion because there may be things that I didn't consider, or have missed, when making those choices.
This forum is awesome! I can't believe how fast you guys have responded within half a day!
Ditto on having a dedicated .22LR and using it before and in between center-fire shooting..for practice.
I debated the same thing when I bought my CZ Shadow...and ended up getting it's baby brother the CZ Kadet..Although more expensive...no fussing around changing hardware at the range...and besides you get another gun in you safe : )
I debated the same thing when I bought my CZ Shadow...and ended up getting it's baby brother the CZ Kadet..Although more expensive...no fussing around changing hardware at the range...and besides you get another gun in you safe : )
I have a Browning, our club is awashed with Rugers, some got the Sig Mosquito (which are now for sale, you may score a good deal, but you will be looking for a buyer soon after), and I got my CZ Shadow with the Cadet kit.
Since you are on a budget, and these are plinkers, you will get the best value for your money if you stick with CZ. There are also other considerations to add, like care and maintenance. Since your are new to the sport, it is always good to "field strip" your firearm with no tools. I have seen to many "noobs" coming at the club with their pride & joy looking like "Dumb & Dumber" have opened a gunsmith shop after a couple of cleanings, to keep this in mind...
This is my $0.02...
Since you are on a budget, and these are plinkers, you will get the best value for your money if you stick with CZ. There are also other considerations to add, like care and maintenance. Since your are new to the sport, it is always good to "field strip" your firearm with no tools. I have seen to many "noobs" coming at the club with their pride & joy looking like "Dumb & Dumber" have opened a gunsmith shop after a couple of cleanings, to keep this in mind...
This is my $0.02...
the best price I have seen on CZs and the Kadet are at sporteque.ca. They have them in stock and the prices listed include sales tax. I only discovered this site after I bought my Kadet for about $100 more. The Kadet is relatively pricey for a .22LR but is a very high quality pistol and worth it IMHO
