Suggestions needed! (.22lr, 9mm, .45acp)

Personally I have separate guns. I just think the cost of conversion kits are to expensive and you can great some great rimfire pistols for the same price. My Ruger MKll and Rossi 22 revolver is still fun to shoot every time.
 
I looked at conversion kits when I was buying and thought the price was too much. You keep saying it is free but what is the cost of the gun it is going on compared to buying two different calibers? The other pain in the neck was having to change out the barrel/slide etc to convert it over, if a slide spring takes off outside you may never find it again.
I bought a Chiappa 22lr 1911, norinco 201C 9mm and a Remington R1 1911 45ACP. also picked up a woodsman 22lr copy by norinco for the wife. the 9mm was supposed to be hers too and the 45 mine, but i like the 9mm too and it is cheaper to shoot than the 45, so i may pick up another one of those or get a 9mm glock as the wife like the feel of it on the rpal course.
 
" I basically get a free .22lr kit for the price of a P226 in 9mm, but the downside is that I'll have to swap them out depending on what I want to shoot that day."

Just a comment on this^
I bring mine to the range and can change it over faster that i can load a mag. It takes all of two seconds.
 
Just to play Devils Advocate here:

GSG-1911 .22 Rimfire
STI Spartan 9mm
Colt 1911 45acp

This would certainly make you good with a 1911 in a hurry - and they'd all fit the same holsters and mag pouches.
 
Never mind all that nonsense...GET A SNAKE SLAYER
The only centre fire pistol that you can get ammo for at crappy tire.
People will crowd your bench and marvel at how awesome you are.Yesss a snakess sslayerssss.
 
Thanks for all the input guys! :)

Found another good/cheap/reliable .22

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Cheapest I found was $150!

Awesome, this will let me put more money into the 9mm and the .45 :)
 
If you're using this as a practice gun you really should get a .22 that has a grip frame angle that is more similar to the 1911 style.

I'm one that says that the .22 practice gun doesn't need to be the SAME gun but it should at least be a close comparison to your other center fire configurations. So something with a steeper grip angle to more closely mimic a 1911 or similar grip frame angle would be better.
 
A gsg 1911 22lr pistol costs less then a conversion kit and is a lot of fun.

Having said that, sigs conversion kit can be put on in about 8 seconds. It is much faster than the 1911 ones.

and if you have a seris 80 1911 frame.. it works as a conversion kit.. and if you wait they comeing out with a conversion kit for the series 70 as well (the one with out the mag saftey)

I like my GSG 1911.. Ruger is a pain to disample feels el cheapo.. I wouldnt recomend it but some people swear by it.. Pain to resamble.. feels silly (I didnt like it at all)
 
If you're using this as a practice gun you really should get a .22 that has a grip frame angle that is more similar to the 1911 style.

I'm one that says that the .22 practice gun doesn't need to be the SAME gun but it should at least be a close comparison to your other center fire configurations. So something with a steeper grip angle to more closely mimic a 1911 or similar grip frame angle would be better.


hmmm never thought of it from that angle (pardon the pun lol)... does the angle of the grip on the practice gun REALLY have a huge effect on how you shoot on the other pistols in your collection? Sort of like a carried-over effect or something along that line?

and if you have a seris 80 1911 frame.. it works as a conversion kit.. and if you wait they comeing out with a conversion kit for the series 70 as well (the one with out the mag saftey)

I like my GSG 1911.. Ruger is a pain to disample feels el cheapo.. I wouldnt recomend it but some people swear by it.. Pain to resamble.. feels silly (I didnt like it at all)

Yeah the GSG is looking pretty good right now - the only "downside" of that is that one extra screw to remove before you can disassemble the gun, which, I suppose, really isn't an issue for most people because the only place we'll take the guns apart would be at home or at the range, and it's not hard to have some tools handy at those locations.
 
hmmm never thought of it from that angle (pardon the pun lol)... does the angle of the grip on the practice gun REALLY have a huge effect on how you shoot on the other pistols in your collection? Sort of like a carried-over effect or something along that line?



Yeah the GSG is looking pretty good right now - the only "downside" of that is that one extra screw to remove before you can disassemble the gun, which, I suppose, really isn't an issue for most people because the only place we'll take the guns apart would be at home or at the range, and it's not hard to have some tools handy at those locations.


All the tools required to strip the pistol come with the pistol in the manual bag. The case the GSG comes in can be locked with a small lock add a trigger lock you now have a cleaning brush tools and the pistol with you at the range

Best regards,
Scott
 
How about the GSG 1911, a CZ75 variant for 9mm and the SA in Black Stainless? Overall cost would be about the same or slightly less than your option A......or instead of the CZ I like the idea of a STI Spartan in 9mm as well.
 
How about the GSG 1911, a CZ75 variant for 9mm and the SA in Black Stainless? Overall cost would be about the same or slightly less than your option A......or instead of the CZ I like the idea of a STI Spartan in 9mm as well.

Yip I'm pretty much settled on the GSG 1911 for the .22lr plinker - full-size, similar takedown as other 1911s, good reviews and decent accuracy, and cheap enough for a practice gun :)

As for the 9mm, CZs are great but I REALLY REALLY love the look and feel of the Jericho 941 - I guess that's a personal thing because it's not the most popular 9mm out there that's for sure. The Jericho, however, is based off the design of CZs anyway, so in a way, I AM getting a CZ :D LOL

Also, I think I might go with the SA 1911 "Milspec", which is $250 less than the "Loaded" and has good enough features ( high-profile sights, beveled mag well, lowered ejection port, etc) as a slightly upgraded "base-gun"... If I ever wanted to upgrade it there's endless configuration and I think it's better if I shoot with something more basic to start with, and figure out what I want, then spend the money on upgrading it.

C'mon CFC, send me my RPAL now!!! :wave:
 
hmmm never thought of it from that angle (pardon the pun lol)... does the angle of the grip on the practice gun REALLY have a huge effect on how you shoot on the other pistols in your collection? Sort of like a carried-over effect or something along that line?

It does for me because in addition to originally buying my first (I've got 4 .22semis now. They are just SO much fun :D ) to work on my flinch and trigger control issues I moved on to using my .22's for lift, sight and shoot quick practice for my match shooting. For this application the gun has to be decently similar to the guns I use in competition.

Now if I were totally serious about only ONE type of competition I'd get my .22 in the same gun or buy a second identical gun and matching .22 conversion kit so I'd have a center fire and .22 separate guns in the same type. But a big part of my shooting is the variety of guns I have. I shoot different semis as well as revolvers. So I just don't get so focused on one style of shooting and one gun enough to justify a dedicated exactly matching .22.

Although if you go with a 1911 in center fire you now obviously have a lot of matching .22 options.

So it's up to you. The Rugers the folks are mentioning are superb guns. Also if the Norinco M193 is as good a copy as the Iver Johnson Woodsman clone then it'll be a tack driver as well. But for myself the odd angle is just not ideal for using the .22 as a good practice gun to go with the other options once you get past the use of it for purely trigger discipline and flinch curing.

One thing I found out goofing around with the two grip angle styles. If you hold the Woodsman/Ruger/Hi Standard style angle grip and then lift your arm out to the side and look that way then open your eyes the sights tend to be perfectly aligned or darn near to it. But if you do the same with a 1911 like angle gun it'll be pointed strongly down. Now change and with eyes closed lift a 1911 style or similar gun out in front and go into a two handed hold. When you open your eyes the sights will tend to be leveled. Do the same with the Woodsman/Ruge/et all style gun and it'll likely be pointed at the ceiling.

From this exercise it would appear that the Luger style angle works best for side on "duelist" posture one handed bullseye shooting that was highly popular at one time. But for "practical" two handed service and competition style shooting the more vertical 1911 style angle seems to be more appropriate.
 
Yip I'm pretty much settled on the GSG 1911 for the .22lr plinker - full-size, similar takedown as other 1911s, good reviews and decent accuracy, and cheap enough for a practice gun :)

As for the 9mm, CZs are great but I REALLY REALLY love the look and feel of the Jericho 941 - I guess that's a personal thing because it's not the most popular 9mm out there that's for sure. The Jericho, however, is based off the design of CZs anyway, so in a way, I AM getting a CZ :D LOL

Also, I think I might go with the SA 1911 "Milspec", which is $250 less than the "Loaded" and has good enough features ( high-profile sights, beveled mag well, lowered ejection port, etc) as a slightly upgraded "base-gun"... If I ever wanted to upgrade it there's endless configuration and I think it's better if I shoot with something more basic to start with, and figure out what I want, then spend the money on upgrading it.

C'mon CFC, send me my RPAL now!!! :wave:

I love my Jericho 941 in 9mm. My favourite handgun. Never any issues what so ever after a couple thousand rounds. I love the look of it and is very accurate and comfortable to shoot too. Dont know why they arent that popular in Canada....they are great
 
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