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[manitou210]

Looks like I'm gonna have testing to do!

This load might save you some time !

Rifle Rem 700 22" factory barrel.Trigger 1.5lbs,action trued,bedded in Mc Millan stock,Leupold B&C retical
Win Brass, ( primer pockets all uniformed inside and out)
CCI Benchrest Primers
RL17 powder, MAX Load.
Nosler 140gr Accubonds
3000 fps ES 16
1/2moa at 100y, was able to shoot a 3 shot group at 500y 5"

Bull moose at 80y instant kill, Deer at 512y also instant kill 2012.
hope this will help you
manitou

 

['Boo]

Has anyone had much experience with Noslers e-tip? I have never tried that one yet.

I have shot 2 deer and 3 wolves with the 168 E-Tip out of my 300 wsm. The first wolf was shot at spitting distance square in the chest as it was barking at me. The bullet traveled straight as a rock and went the full length of the adult animal. The other two were quartering away at around 50 yards or so and again death was instantaneous with very large exits as a result.

The first deer I hit with an E-Tip was a mature mulie my daughter had just shot with a 270. Her shot was a perfect low-lung/high heart broadside but after the 130 grain Scirroco hit the deer it took a few steps towards what I knew was an escape route over a cliff edge. Rather than having to deal with a 3 hour recovery I elected to use an insurance shot and put the E-Tip high through both should dropping it on the spot. The range was ~250 yards and the expansion was very evident leaving a hole you could have shoved a garden hose through.

The second deer was one I bounced out of his bed on a hillside on the last day of the season. I hit him broadside from about 100 feet through the ribs. I swear to God I could hear the wind whistling through the wound channel as I dragged him down to the trail.

So, with my limited field experience in the last 2 years, I have to say they behave very much like the Nosler Accubonds in that the work well if you don't mind a destroying a bit of meat in the process.

 

[Johnn Peterson]

No, the bullet just clipped the skin on the back of leg and then was a perfect through and through taking out both lungs. On this particular deer not even the rib bones took a direct hit.

Between my daughter and myself we have taken over a dozen moose, deer, and bears using the Triple-shock bullets at distances from 40 feet to 400 yards and I can guarantee that they open very easily. I think a lot of stories we hear about bullets "not-expanding" are from guys who lost animals and blame the bullets rather than their shooting skills for the loss.

Glad to hear that. Following my last Deer hunt in AB the question came up about getting with todays technology, bullet wise, in my reloads. Following some convincing reasoning, I decided perhaps it was time. After checking into some of what is available in that area, I basically decided to go with the Barnes TTSX in a number of calibers. I've done some load work and paper punching with them and the plan is field use next year.

 

['Boo]

Johnn,

The most important thing I have found when working up loads for the Barnes bullets is to make sure the bore is cleaned of ALL copper fouling from other bullet brands. I also should note the TSSX and TSX bullets like a bit of a jump into the lands. 40-50 thousandths of an inch is a good place to begin.

 

[Johnn Peterson]

Johnn,

The most important thing I have found when working up loads for the Barnes bullets is to make sure the bore is cleaned of ALL copper fouling from other bullet brands. I also should note the TSSX and TSX bullets like a bit of a jump into the lands. 40-50 thousandths of an inch is a good place to begin.

Thanks Boo. I appreciate the points of info. Question on the freebore range you've suggested. Is that because of the firmer density of the single metal Barnes,compared to a lead core bullet? Is your freebore/jump suggested distance a result of preasure issues or accuracy results, or both? Part of the reason I ask is with my use of bullets like the Sierra SBT and/or Game King, in 308NM and 25-06, my best accuracy has been when I've minimized the freebore as much as possible.