suggestions Thureon Defense/JR Carbine?

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o.k. guys, so trying to decide which one to maybe go with once the tax refund is received :D I'm thinking truck gun, walking, camping in the bush sort of thing.

Controversy aside :rolleyes:

TD has the easier/simpler take-down for cleaning, JR is 'cleaner' looking, what say you and why.

Prefer to hear from those who either own or have shot either both.

Not interested in the kel-tec at this time, and not interested in the 'their fugly comments'. :D

thanks in advance

TB
 
I have the Thureon and have posted a ton of stuff here. You can search my name and find it.

Personally, my opinion is the Thureon is a better rifle. Easier breakdown, better design, billet aluminium construction, excellent finish, solid support.... and finally if its good enough for Hickock45, its good enough for me ;)... LOL.

The only con (to some people) is the UZI based mags. Personally I like them better for a couple of reasons. I also have been able to modify the LAR15 mags (10 round) from Questar to work perfectly in the Thureon. At the moment you can order 5 mags for just over $100. Cheap enough to negate the JR's advantage with Glock mags.

Anyway.. Feel free to ask me any questions..

P.S. I haven't actually shot the JR, just held it.
 
I looked at both, held them, worked the actions, dropped & replaced the mags...

Thureon, hands down. The strait-drop Uzi mags (& as mentioned 9mm LAR15 mags) are "where it's at". IMO
 
I have a short barreled JR with 400rds through it. One stove pipe with mfs, No other stoppages, I havent cleaned it yet and won't till it jams. Ive used mostly S&B and federal ammo.
 
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There's lots of posts on this comparison subject elsewhere;

I have a 9mm JR, and my friend has an equivalent Thureon. I've handled, fired and had to clean both and each has advantages and disadvantages.

As far as I am concerned, the initial JR issues are largely gone. I had the early model, that didn't have any problems. But the awesome customer support at JR sent me all the replacement parts anyways; I still have no problems with it. It loves Winchester white box 115gn 9mm.......and is frigging accurate.

This to me is where the JR excels, and the Thureon is unproven. If a person experiences any issues with their JR, they simply call the 1-800 number for Just Right Firearms and speak directly to the production and service staff. In my books, they are #1 for customer service, and treat all of their customers like gold. They know their gun because they designed and built it, and can resolve any issue, most of the time over the phone.

I prefer the looks of the JR, and most AR accessories fit perfectly. Mine uses Glock mags seamlessly - from my G17, back and fourth; too easy. I can buy mags anywhere, and they are cheap by comparison. When you hold a JR, it feels "beefier"; it fits better for me personally.
I find the Thureon looks really pencil thin and fragile, but that is only a perception on my part. It is well made from what I've seen.

The Thureon that my friend has uses the modified UZI mags previously mentioned. I don't like 'em cause they are proprietary, expensive and hard to get. (This will change, of course, when they introduce the new mag capabilities). But the Thureon has advantages when it comes to cleaning, and the ease you can take it down. It also takes accessories very well, and has comparable accuracy to the JR.

Personally, I think both are great guns; and if you do anything, get one of each and have fun. But I do enjoy the relationship between Glock and JR - makes for a great day at the range.

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weapontech says it pretty well. I agree 100% on the mags. Mag quality and availability is a primary concern when purchasing for me. I learned this the hard way early on.
 
The JR feels pretty good, but I would rather have one with a standard M4 style forend and front sight rather than a quad rail.

Might be a worthy build...
 
Have a TD 9mm carbine Love it! it was my choice even with the uzi mag main reason was the easy disassembly it has not let me down. only issue was that the recoil tube was not screwed in to seat the pin that retains the recoil spring. I contacted TD directly and had a quick response. they were very helpful I was told that the tubes+stock were shipped separately from the rest of the gun so whoever assembled it was at fault. But it didnt bother them as they sent me the tools to fix the problem. I had full access to their help no problem they wanted a happy customer. I received the tools fixed the issue even received a Call from Andy Huebschmann the president to make sure everything was ok. I have no problems recommending this quality carbine the people who make it are great and take pride in what they make.
 
Weapontech said:
The Thureon that my friend has uses the modified UZI mags previously mentioned. I don't like 'em cause they are proprietary, expensive and hard to get. (This will change, of course, when they introduce the new mag capabilities). But the Thureon has advantages when it comes to cleaning, and the ease you can take it down. It also takes accessories very well, and has comparable accuracy to the JR.
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Sorry I have to disagree with some of that statement.. The mags are cheap and very easy to get right now. They require a little modification, but anyone with a file or Dremel can do it. $100 for 5 seems pretty cheap to me.

https://shopquestar.com/shopping65/shopexd.asp?id=488
 
any threads on the successful modification of the mags what has to be done? just afraid of buying $100 paper weights.


travellerw said:
Sorry I have to disagree with some of that statement.. The mags are cheap and very easy to get right now. They require a little modification, but anyone with a file or Dremel can do it. $100 for 5 seems pretty cheap to me.

https://shopquestar.com/shopping65/shopexd.asp?id=488
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I'm working on putting up some pictures..

Its actually pretty easy. The Mags that Questar sells are C-product mags with a plastic follower. You need to grind or file the follower so the round sits flat and not pointed slightly up. Then simply file a small amount off of the front right hand feed lip (look at your UZI mag and you will know what I mean). Thats it.. I'm also experimenting with shortening the springs a little bit.

The C-Product mags will work without modification, they just FTE about every 3 or 4 rounds. The modifications solve that problem.
 
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thanks for the quick and honest responses guys, wasn't having much luck with searching, but will review the faq section again as I'm obviously not inputting the correct terms.
looks like either is good to go, so to speak, was hoping for a 'major' difference in one to the other to help sway my decision i.e. A is a lot more accurate then B, that sort of thing. :D

the research continues..

TB
 
travellerw said:
Sorry I have to disagree with some of that statement.. The mags are cheap and very easy to get right now. They require a little modification, but anyone with a file or Dremel can do it. $100 for 5 seems pretty cheap to me.
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My apologies, but I didn't do a very good job of explaining my statement......

In terms of discussing the cost and availability of the UZI type mags required compared to Glock 17 mags, there is a rather significant difference.....
And damned, I can't really use 'em in my UZI either can I? Just sayin'.....! :D
 
Check my other Thueron thread for instructions on modifying the mags.

Weapontech... Yes I agree the mags are pretty much single use. I do understand where you are coming from. I just think people are putting too much weight on the mags. Small price to pay for a rock solid fantastic gun.

What sold me, the billet aluminium construction. To me, that screams quality and attention to detail.
 
I'm looking at the JR as my first "expensive" long gun. I have a question regarding Glock mag interchangeability... Can one substitute the .40 S&W with the 9mm? IE, do the magwells, on the different JR models, have the same dimensions? Could that allow me to load 13(?) rounds of 9mm, into a Glock .40 mag, and fire through the 9mm model, without feed issues?
 
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