Sumbro kind of makes buying reloads pointless

I'll try it. It sounds like its going to be way better than the Winchester forged crap with one FTW about every 10-20 rounds. Blazer runs great.

As far as links to those reviews go; it is most often that those who are unhappy will post the reviews, those who are happy rarely think about it. I did note that those few who did post positive reviews, most were very positive.
 
I bought 500 round bulk about 3 years ago, tried 100, 1 or 2 ftf in each mag, didnt shoot the other 400. I reload 9s and I know when I come across one of them in my reloading, hard to get primer out, and even harder to get in, I just chuck em now when I find one. As I say this was 3 years ago, so must have improved or they wouldn't still be in business. I'll go pull 10 and measure powder, see what we get.
 
So here's the powder from 5,
4.5
4.9
4.0
5.0
4.2
so that's a 1 grain difference in 5, I stopped at 5 because of the 5, one took one smack of the puller, one took 26 smacks, others 5 to 15, didnt want to do 5 more and find they were in the 26 range not the 1.
I will say this though, super shinny on the inside, no marking on bullet from either crimping or just tight fit. Bullets are hollow base, lead, base not jacketed. Powder super fine, I use 231 or tightgroup, this powder is less then 1/2 size.
 
in the same price range there is some better options... like Barnaul I have put 1000's of rounds threw my pistols and never had a problem, even in my one 1911 that is very fussy on ammo, never has a problem with Barnaul. There is usually a sale that you can find blazer or s&b for around the same price too... so I agree that buying reloads is pointless but not because of sumbro
 
Between myself and three of my friends, we have gone through over 4k rounds from the last bulk batch with maybe 4 FTF. They shot a little hotter than CCI. I just picked up a case of 1000 today. The projectile is now golden vs the last ones were copper colour.
 
in the same price range there is some better options... like Barnaul I have put 1000's of rounds threw my pistols and never had a problem, even in my one 1911 that is very fussy on ammo, never has a problem with Barnaul. There is usually a sale that you can find blazer or s&b for around the same price too... so I agree that buying reloads is pointless but not because of sumbro

There are lots of fairly bad reviews on Barnaul too... Blazer is like a whopping 5% more than both of them, the very small savings doesn't seem worth it.

But yes Tenda makes buying reloads pointless. Cheers Tenda.
 
Another one of these threads eh... seems like about 1 a week... or more whenever Tenda advertises the stuff.

The VAST majority... if not ALL of the bad reviews were from the old batch of this stuff a few years ago. It was no secret that stuff was crap... no one is arguing that or denying it.

But this is a new batch... new manufacture and its clearly WAY better. Just look at the number of people who've fired 1-2000 rounds with only 1 or 2 problems. I can't say I've had that positive an experience with Winchester Forged, Blazer aluminum or Bernaul (though I wont argue with someone who HAS).

Ive fired 1000 rounds.... maybe a bit more, from their last bulk packaged 1500 round box and I havent had a single FTE, FTF or squib. They DO feel hotter than my other 9mm stuff but I've run it in my Kriss, Sub2K, SR9 and TP9SF and havent had ANY issues at all. I would say its maybe a BIT cleaner than blazer aluminum. Cleaner than Winchester forged.

Its good ammo... not the best, definitely not the worst. For the money, its REALLY hard to pass up.
 
I haven't purchased any of this ammo as I solely reload 9mm for practice and competitions. But, I do know that ever single SUMBRO case I find in my mixed bag of range brass goes in the trash. After having to take apart many bullets that didn't pass my EGW case gauge and then didn't pass the chamber check I was extremely annoyed to say the least. Reloading is time consuming and nothing worse than having to continually take bullets apart and slowing me down. I reload approximately 8-10K rounds a year, I have no time for brass that slows me down in that process.

All other range brass that is picked sizes fine in my dillon, just not the SUMBRO.

Now it may be worth it prices wise to buy this ammo if you don't reload as long as its reliable. Personally 1/1000 rounds that fail is acceptable, but nothing beyond that. I have a pretty high standard for ammo as most competitors do. With that being said, if that 1 round cause a malfunction while I was competing and negatively effected my results, I would never use that ammo again, hence why I reload and know exactly every single round I use is good to go.......now I just need to fix the shooter haha!
 
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