Dryfire, I don't see it as splitting hairs, I just see it as the rifles capabilities, a few shots is suffice, consistency in multiple groups is the shooters capabilities, big difference. No rifle manufacturer test fires each of their rifles a 1000 times to see if it's consistent, it's just not necessary.
Super Accurate Repeaters?
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Remove the human element with a machine rest and see where the groups form up. Fortunately, the equipment is not readily available to many. The standard for accuracy with manufacturers also varies.
The degree of accuracy that is postulated does require extensive trials and multiple test groups. If the level of accuracy was attainable as an average one would see more of the previously mentioned rifles in BR competitions.
They do not appear - not even in hunter BR matches.
The degree of accuracy that is postulated does require extensive trials and multiple test groups. If the level of accuracy was attainable as an average one would see more of the previously mentioned rifles in BR competitions.
They do not appear - not even in hunter BR matches.
Not many rifles shoot like the 40x, no question, no question extensive testing is done on equipment and munitions, at a certain level marginal improvements cost exponentionally more (not marginally more) the targets from the CZ and Cooper are not BR targets, too big, just demonstrate to the OP that some guns can shoot pretty good, although not perfect.
You asked targets be posted, I simply posted the only one I have handy and unfortunately its not form the Unique Target T_SM,
The great ammo is not readily available, never mind the rifle. Which current production model to you think can keep up with the 40x? Bleiker, FWB 2700, Walther KK300 or the Anschutz Fortner?
Referring back to post #11, the OP gave an example of desired accuracy from a repeater. Although there may be the exceptional standout rifles from any brand, that level of accuracy and consistency is difficult to achieve.
Without knowing the budget I believe the OP may have to relax the standard to find what he is seeking.
Without knowing the budget I believe the OP may have to relax the standard to find what he is seeking.
Before this derails, my goals are for similar performance to the 40X groups Eagleye posted, but it does not have to be exactly that. I agree there is a world of difference between 1/2" groups at 50yds and groups in the .1's, though. I may not even be a good enough shooter to get those .1's, but I will never know without the rifle to do it.
What I want is to make that jump from the 1/2" rifle up to the next step where .1's and .2's are the norm. But not with a single shot, if possible.
I am expecting to have to pay up to 40X prices, I was more concerned with finding a repeater capable of matching that performance or if there were any even available. I am in no hurry, and have been watching the EE for a while now. I may buy an Anschutz 54 as a test drive to see if the single shot thing bothers me at the range. If it doesn't work out, I know I can sell it again at no loss.
Mark
I also only posted one group that I had a picture of. Then again, I don't use match grade loads either, so I am not likely to see those groups in the .1s. I can say for sure though, that my Cooper came with a test target in the .1s, and I do intend to purchase a box of the high end match loads to see just how close that I can come to that test target. Given that Cooper guarantees 1/4" for five shots at 50 yards, and my rifle came with a test target in the .1s,, I am thinking that any Cooper would give you a fair chance of reaching that goal with the proper loads. I have shot a few five shot 50 yard groups in the .1s with my Cooper LVT in 17HMR, and I am thinking that if 17hmr match loads were available, it would happen much more often. As well, the scope on my 22lr is only a 3x-9x, and on my 17hmr I have a 4.5-14x, which doesn't help to achieve those tiny groups.
Apart from the various biathlon rifles:-
Anschutz 54.18 MSR
Anschutz 1422
Savage-Anschutz 54 Sporter
Various Anschutz 54 action 17XX rifles and Anschutz 64 action rifles.
Walther KKJ etc.
