Super sniper or Leupold

Used several and still own two SS scopes. For the money, they are a great buy. Have enormous amounts of elevation adjustment for those who want to really get out there. The adjustments are reliable and track well. The turrents have a silly way of attaching which I consider a weak point. Otherwise, just fine.

The optical quality for my eyes is better then the Elite 3200 10X but not as good as the Elite 4200 scopes. Sorry, but Luppy, depending on scope and model, has optics about the same as the SS. I would rate them as average/slightly above.

For the enormous price difference, I would say the SS is the better buy. If concerned about warranty and on a budget, the Elite 3200 10X is just too good to be true.

If I did want to spend luppy type bucks, I would choose a Nikon Tactical. Way better optics and mechanically superb. No shortage of reviews on other tactical sites.

Luppy does have tracking and holding zero issues. That is a common fact in BR circles. There are fixes but for that type of money, I expect perfect performance. The best tracking products that I have used are the Elite 4000/4200 scopes. Not much elevation adjustments but man do they work well. Throw in the amazing optics and price, you got a deal.

So unless you plan on abusing your scope in tactical fashion, why not widen your choices and include other products? Nikon Monarch and the new Buckmaster lines are great. The tactical are superb. The Elites are great value.

Jerry
 
Actually, Leupold does have tracking problems as do other scopes. Cecil Tucker and a few others are paying the bills arresting this problem through scope modiifications similar to the Burris posi-lock. Granted 1/16 - 1/8" error at 100 yds isn't considered a problem for most long range shooters since they feel they can live with it.......but the tracking problem is a problem Leupold does have. Their newly designed competition series scopes (the best they make) has yet to correct the problem.
 
Actually, Leupold does have tracking problems as do other scopes. Cecil Tucker and a few others are paying the bills arresting this problem through scope modiifications similar to the Burris posi-lock. Granted 1/16 - 1/8" error at 100 yds isn't considered a problem for most long range shooters since they feel they can live with it.......but the tracking problem is a problem Leupold does have. Their newly designed competition series scopes (the best they make) has yet to correct the problem.
 
If I did want to spend luppy type bucks, I would choose a Nikon Tactical. Way better optics and mechanically superb. No shortage of reviews on other tactical sites.
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Nikon does not offer their tactical scopes in Canada, surprise surprise, what else is new. Before you know it we won't be able to buy anything here.
 
All great stuff guys.
keep it comming.I thouhgt this would help confirm my decisions
but all this info from some very knowledgable people (no I'm not
trying to stroke you guys) is just adding more option.
regards
 
I'l have another Sightron SIII in stock for evaluation again. It is their 30mm 6-24 long range scope.

The Sightron would apply to users who do not require the tank tough design like the Nightforce NXS line. It is a lower cost alternative but in the price range of $1200 cdn it is still a stiff price.
 
I've got both Mark 4's (plural) and Super Snipers (also plural) on my AR's for Service Rifle, Precision Rifle, groundhog rigs and also my wife's sniper rig. I love Leupolds and the SS series of scopes. :wink:

I hunt with all of them and compete with all of them. Both price points and brands track very confidently and I would not hesitate to swap my Mark 4's for a fixed SS in a pinch. I've been super happy returning to 100 meter zero after shooting for a week at the National Sniper matches with the SS 16X and any of my Mark 4's. :D

If you got one rig, then by all means spend good money on the best optics you can afford. I've got at least 5 rigs that I've got to put good, solid , reliable glass on top of and I can happily cut corners from the Mark 4 family and confidently launch earth pigs (groundhogs) up to 300 steps away... while in the Ottawa Valley. :lol: yuk yuk.

Like Badgerdog and his better half, my wife and I are super happy with the Super Sniper series of scopes for our known distance sniper matches. None of us are deploying to Asskrakistan, but frankly, I would be confident that both brands will deliver the goods. :wink: I've been in touch with several returning GI's from the "sandbox" who have "used" their Super Sniper fixed power scopes on "targets of opportunity" and they were most pleased. (let's not go there.... :| Please and thanks)..... :roll:

Yup, SWFA will not service any SS scopes coming from the Socialist Republik of Kanada, but they will never know that it's a Kanuckistani scope they are servicing when say.... one of our 'Merican brothers ships it from a US address. :roll: That's why I've got THREE :shock: of the Super Snipers.

Now I don't know about you great CGNutters, but I've got 2 teen sons who also share my love for precision shooting so I'm ALWAYS building and looking to build more rigs for the family to have fun with. Mark 4's ain't gonna help me out when it comes to putting together a precesion rig for my 17 year old who wants to shoot Precision matches with the ORA next summer. With all kinds of bolt guns in the safe, I've had to settle for a single diameter of ring (s) set(s) that are always involved in scope swaps and then further experimentation... that's why I've had to settle for 30mm rings and tactical bases for our many Remington M700's and Winchester M70's. :mrgreen:

Hey, I just had a 1911 in 9mm built for my wife !! Some of you lucky CGNutters will know what I'm talking about when you wife just jumps into the hobby (lock, stock and barrel.... literally) :lol:

Okay, back to the discussion..... the bottom line.... Go with what YOUR budget can afford, what your dealer/source can bring in for you... your intended game (plinking, precision matches, LR hunting, varmint shooting, etc) , what your eye finds appealing, what caliber, bullet, velocity you intend to shoot, and all those other variables nobody can figure out for YOU (and only you). :!:

As for the Super Sniper scopes, I'm always finding them in my mailbox from Texas. :roll:

Cheers all,
Barney
 
Not impressed at all with the new Leupolds. Very stiff, tonnes of fore/backlash in the focus, and the one my friend had, had tracking problems(3.5-10 Longrange) To me not as well built as they used to be. Ultra's(MK 4) glass I think are still ground in the factory though. Reg models get glass from Japan. Probably Hoya glass or somehting like it. I played with the Valada 6-24. Unbelievably robust, Schott glass, same as German Zeiss, and reasonably :) affordable. For bang for buck though, I would probably have to say Nightforce. Spend more money and buy Schmidt&Bender. This is the nicest scope I have ever looked through. Very unimpressed with the Tasco, though affordable for the budget minded.
Just my thoughts :roll:
 
yeah i cant wait to have 3k U$D to blow on an S&B PMII :roll:




actually i really do, i just dont think i'll ever have the dough to buy one :(
 
Hey folks
I ahve been getting numerous Pm with offers of some excellent scopes.
I'm not ignoring bynot replying .its just every time I think Idlike to make an offer
I get more pms.I will contact you in a timly manner.
regards
 
dude im broke and i make 9 dollars an hour
and i just spent 2k on a rifle, and the only part i have received as of now is my scope base :cry:
 
My expirience is the same as Hungry's. Super Snipers are a great value.

Hungry, I hope you appreciate how lucky you are to have children and a wife that will go shooting with you, mine just want to shoot AT me!
 
SS Fun

buckbrush:

The secret to getting them out is all about positive experiences. Give them good glass mounted on good bangsticks to have an immediate imprinting of how much fun shooting is. :eek:

I hooked my wife by using my CZ452 Varmint .22 LR. On top of the Varmint .22 is a Super Sniper 16X that really zooms in and focuses on the little pebbles in the sand at the 50 m backstop. She loves to pick off the the thumbtacks holding up paper targets. Staples too, they are fair game at 50m. :cool: Then I did the same for my sons... I had a welder buddy use up chunks of scrap 1/4" and 1/2" steel into little biatlon targets at 25 m and 50 m distances. My 2 boys throughout their childhood range sessions were playing miniature sniper with the CZ 452, not to mention a Bushnell 4X scoped Ruger 10/22.

The heck with iron sights for newbies... at first anyways.. Hook them with optics and then when they are ready (bored :rolleyes: ) for the next level, try the iron sights... BUT FIRST use the iron sights on a .22 LR Pistol... MORE Fun Factor !!!

Oh by the way, I bought a Bushnell Elite 3200 10X Mildot for my earthpig rifle, the Rem M700 BDL synthetic .223. I'm only blasting at groundhogs between 100 and 300 steps away.:D

So folks, the Super Snipers and Bushnells fill a niche. It's just a matter of deciding which price point and for what function/game you are gonna use the optics on. :p

Have lotsa fun,

Barney
 
The SS come up for sale now and then. They are mechanically a great scope with lots of elevation adjustment. Simple and rugged too. Optically, they are not as good as the Elites or Nikons but not that far off the Luppies. For the enormous difference in price, I go with the SS. If really on a budget, the Elite 3200 is the best bang for the buck.

I believe that scopes are sighting devices not viewing devices so will tolerate if the image is just a bit off. However, it must be mechanically sound or basically useless.

If optics and mechanics are paramount, I would suggest you lean towards an Elite 4200 or a Nikon Monarch or Tactical. Both better priced then the Luppy, IOR, S&B, et al.

If you can get them, the new Nikon Buckmaster SF 4X14 w/mil dots is a best buy. Very nice optics, great low light, excellent mechs for less money. I am thrilled with mine.

If interested in an SS, PM me. I might part with my extra 16X.

Jerry
 
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