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I recently bought my first shotgun, a Benelli Supernova. I’ve shot clays with it twice now, a total 7 boxes. All 2-3/4 target loads. It has jammed twice. I think this is probably not normal? I’ll try to explain what happened but I am new to this so hopefully it makes sense. I had two in the mag, I fire the one from the chamber, slide the pump back, the empty shell ejects, then when I try to slide the pump forward cartridge 2 gets bound up with cartridge 3. I can reach in to the chamber with my finger and wiggle 2 out to unjam it.

Is this normal? Am I maybe doing something wrong?
 
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Some more info: Got a chance to take it out again and the problem was worse. It was still cheap ammo, but a different one. It happens with there is three shells in the gun. I fire the first, it ejects, then the second one comes out of the magazine but when it is moving forward to be chambered it catches on the third which has come out of the magazine a bit. I have attached a super bad picture (sorry for the quality)
https://www.dropbox.com/s/cloahuun4cca7ck/File 2018-02-27, 7 53 14 AM.jpeg?dl=0
Any thoughts?
 
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This can happen with pump shotguns when the action is not operated with enough force rearward. Also, when it comes rearward, goes forward a bit, then back again, releasing the next shell in the magazine into the one on the lifter. Known as a "double shuffle". Try it with a more positive rearward action and see how it goes.
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buffdog said:
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This can happen with pump shotguns when the action is not operated with enough force rearward. Also, when it comes rearward, goes forward a bit, then back again, releasing the next shell in the magazine into the one on the lifter. Known as a "double shuffle". Try it with a more positive rearward action and see how it goes.


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This is my thought as well. I had a Nova a few years back. I would have the same problem once in awhile. The gun was too long for me and what was happening I was not pumping with enough force, basically "short stroking" it.
 
Maritime Storm said:
Describe exactly what it is doing so we can help you fix it.
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Sorry I missed this, my gun was at my buddies house and not on my mind.

Here are some pics of 2 jams.
https://i.imgur.com/Qw1KgFu.jpg
https://imgur.com/E9156jB

I contacted Stoeger and they said: "It sounds like the control arms in the trigger group may be in need of timing adjustment. If you would like to send the firearm to us our gunsmith can look it over and ensure all is working as it should."

I have no idea what that means. I don't want to send it to Stoeger for a million years if I don't have to. I'd be willing to ay for the repair at a local gunsmith if it's minor. Any ideas? I'm not sure how to better explain what happens than in the original post. In the pics you see the two unfired shells jammed together.

Any help would be very much appreciated.
 
gunsaholic said:
This is my thought as well. I had a Nova a few years back. I would have the same problem once in awhile. The gun was too long for me and what was happening I was not pumping with enough force, basically "short stroking" it.
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This would also be my guess. A shooting buddy of mine would do the same thing trying to cycle his too fast after each shot. I always found it weird because we were only shooting hand throws and the second wasn't exactly right behind lol.
 
I bought a SuperNova a number of years back and though I never had a jam with it, it was a horrible feeling action. It felt like the slide arms were being dragged across 80 grit sandpaper each time the gun was pumped. I couldn’t stand the feel of it and got rid of it within a few days of buying it. I guess when you’ve been accustomed to shooting Model 12 Trap guns nothing else just has that feel?! :popCorn:
 
They smooth out eventually, my workhorse has in the vicinity of 14,000 shells through it so far. No, not as smooth as a Model 12, not as cranky single loading it either. The Model 12, Model 31 and Model 17 are pump guns of a different class, built to a far higher standard that few people will pay for nowadays.
 
grosenbaum said:
Sorry I missed this, my gun was at my buddies house and not on my mind.

Here are some pics of 2 jams.
https://i.imgur.com/Qw1KgFu.jpg
https://imgur.com/E9156jB

I contacted Stoeger and they said: "It sounds like the control arms in the trigger group may be in need of timing adjustment. If you would like to send the firearm to us our gunsmith can look it over and ensure all is working as it should."

I have no idea what that means. I don't want to send it to Stoeger for a million years if I don't have to. I'd be willing to ay for the repair at a local gunsmith if it's minor. Any ideas? I'm not sure how to better explain what happens than in the original post. In the pics you see the two unfired shells jammed together.

Any help would be very much appreciated.
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Stoegers warranty centre is in Whitby, Ontario, if it's a minor issue, turnaround shouldn't be long. Better than continuing to fight with a gun you know doesn't work right.
 
FWIW, I got one recently, and it doesn't do that; hasn't had the slightest feed issue at the range, though I'm using nice ammo. (It does hate tipton's cheap plastic snap caps and jams every time the action is cycled, however. Different way: the forend gets stuck fully forward with the snapcaps and is a pain to unstick.)
 
Looks like the magazine is double feeding shells onto the lifter when you pull the pump back to eject the fired shell? Having never handled or seen a Nova, I would guess it is something to do with the trigger group and magazine retention springs. It should only let one shell at a time out.
 
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