Surefire for bear defense s/g?

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I've seen a lot of pics of ar15s and such with those Surefire weapon lights and also a lot of shotguns with the Surefire forends. They look great but obviously you pay a pretty penny for them as well. I was wondering if they would be good for a tactical/bear defense shotgun. If so, is one better than the other? Any other suggestions? Shotgun would be used in Nunavut while out on the land if it means anything... Thanks.
 
...Check with "The Locals" ! They'd have a lot more experience with dealing hungry Polar Bears than anyone else ... Considering the size of a Polar Bears teeth, and how fast they can run, throw in a stiff wind, and somehow I don't think Pepper Spray/Bear repellent is a viable option ! Me? I'd opt for a semi auto RPG or even a 50 cal. and a pair of high speed snow shoes !! ..David K.
 
The best test lab these days is the Iraqi desert. Do some research on Lessons Learned from USMC units (there seem to be enough of the them floating on the net), and then US Army. The grunts have SOPMOD kits to trick out their M4 Carbines and I think it includes a whizbang fecking expensive-to-lose flashlight.

I like the idea of bear defence with a super bright flashlight. The arctic is dark more than it is light. The beam of a flashlight might be more effective on night vision of a bear than first thought.

I would also wonder if slugs, saboted slugs or SSG would be most effective. Are you trying to kill the thing as it charges with its hard head, or just kinetically gouge out vital organs and flesh between the fur and the bone?
 
Don't discount bearspray to fast, Even the experts agree that it works, but like anything, not in all situations. I carry mine as a backup to my shotgun. As I am only bushwalking in daylight I have no need of a light on my gun. Keep in mind that anything on your gun adds weight, and if you are packing it for a long ways, weight sucks.

I think a good headlamp will be just as good. The flashlight may be good on the campgun, but they are a lot of money. Spend the money on decent shotgun and lots of bullets to practice with.
 
I like the idea of the light on the gun.
- It's really dark, and you can hear something moving around, click on the light and start looking for 2 glowing marbles. When you find them, their distance apart can help determine your actions, IE, eyes appear less than 1 finger apart, the bear is at about 50 metres, watch and see what happens - or - glowing eyes are about 2 fingers apart means the bear is about 10 metres away, unless it is turning and running away the evening is about to take a turn for the interesting - or - The eyes appear more than a hand apart, at this time you'll probably also notice that the bear has rather bad breath. If your mag isn't already empty, you'd better get busy!
 
The light on the gun may or may not help. In the fall, when the nights are very dark they would be good, but in the winter visibility at night can often be quite good due to the snow on the ground. In my experience, using a light under these conditions limits your vision to the length of the beam, and the bear might be just beyond that. Once the light is switched on it might take a while for your natural night vision to return after it's turned off. True you would be no worse off than you would be in the fall, but with one of these guys close you want every advantage you can get.
 
Which would you guys choose? The Surefire forend or the weapon light for a tactical/bear defense shottie? OAL is about the minimum 660mm.
 
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