I also read that it has to do with their holster retention but I think your post is more accurate.
Surplus Israeli Police pistols. Are they worth it?
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I also read that it has to do with their holster retention but I think your post is more accurate.
So I finally received my Police Surplus Jericho 941. When I got it home I did a full disassembly of the entire gun. I will give a brief run-down of the firearm.
The exterior has holster wear as it was a duty firearm made in 1996. Luckily, I was able to cherry pick mine. The engraving and police markings are deep, crisp and legible. The sights are a 3 dot system. They were dirty but they cleaned up very nice. You will notice that they appear to be suppressor height. In my opinion they are this height to assist in slide manipulation. The sights assist in be able to push on them to aid in getting good grip . I contacted IMI/IWI and that black plastic piece around the front of the trigger guard was there to assist those with smaller hands. If you take this piece off you will notice how large the trigger guard it. Its great if you are using gloves. I took mine off and cleaned it and replaced it as it fits my smaller hands.
I them did a total disassembly of the firearm. The first thing you will notice is that the gun is very well oiled. Once I took the slide off I saw a lot of grit and sand. This was to be expected since it came from Israel. Once I did a quick wipe down of the oil, I noticed that the internals were in exceptional condition. They barely looked used. The barrel was mint. No pitting or rust. The slide had the usual wear but it was also in excellent shape no dings or scratches. The non captured guide rod was clean and smooth. The spring looked great . The firing pin and extractor were dirty but in excellent shape. The slide rails were smooth and clean.
The lower looked amazing as well. I stripped everything down and gave it a good clean to remove the grit and sand. I was really impressed at the condition once I was able to remove all the oil and carbon.
I used 2 videos on You Tube to assist with the disassembly process. I will post them for you.
I them moved on to the magazine. I took it apart and there was rust, grit and grime in it. I let it soak for a few hours. After a wipe down it appears to be functioning as normal but it does have pitting. I purchased 2 addition CZ Shadow 2 mags with the BLUE followers as well.
Once I put it back together it was super smooth. This is my first all steel gun. The full length rails make a huge difference in how smooth it operates. I will be spending sometime cleaning the exterior but I will not go crazy as I like the "battle worn" look.
The only addition I will make is to install a Hogue grip but that's it. Thanks to everyone who chimed in on this thread. I highly recommend grabbing one of these while you can. Tenda has them for 439.99.
Video to disassemble the lower
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-SVy66K__Bc&list=WL&index=65&t=257s
Video to disassemble to slide
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=uxpqgwY89fs&list=WL&index=64&t=7s
The exterior has holster wear as it was a duty firearm made in 1996. Luckily, I was able to cherry pick mine. The engraving and police markings are deep, crisp and legible. The sights are a 3 dot system. They were dirty but they cleaned up very nice. You will notice that they appear to be suppressor height. In my opinion they are this height to assist in slide manipulation. The sights assist in be able to push on them to aid in getting good grip . I contacted IMI/IWI and that black plastic piece around the front of the trigger guard was there to assist those with smaller hands. If you take this piece off you will notice how large the trigger guard it. Its great if you are using gloves. I took mine off and cleaned it and replaced it as it fits my smaller hands.
I them did a total disassembly of the firearm. The first thing you will notice is that the gun is very well oiled. Once I took the slide off I saw a lot of grit and sand. This was to be expected since it came from Israel. Once I did a quick wipe down of the oil, I noticed that the internals were in exceptional condition. They barely looked used. The barrel was mint. No pitting or rust. The slide had the usual wear but it was also in excellent shape no dings or scratches. The non captured guide rod was clean and smooth. The spring looked great . The firing pin and extractor were dirty but in excellent shape. The slide rails were smooth and clean.
The lower looked amazing as well. I stripped everything down and gave it a good clean to remove the grit and sand. I was really impressed at the condition once I was able to remove all the oil and carbon.
I used 2 videos on You Tube to assist with the disassembly process. I will post them for you.
I them moved on to the magazine. I took it apart and there was rust, grit and grime in it. I let it soak for a few hours. After a wipe down it appears to be functioning as normal but it does have pitting. I purchased 2 addition CZ Shadow 2 mags with the BLUE followers as well.
Once I put it back together it was super smooth. This is my first all steel gun. The full length rails make a huge difference in how smooth it operates. I will be spending sometime cleaning the exterior but I will not go crazy as I like the "battle worn" look.
The only addition I will make is to install a Hogue grip but that's it. Thanks to everyone who chimed in on this thread. I highly recommend grabbing one of these while you can. Tenda has them for 439.99.
Video to disassemble the lower
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-SVy66K__Bc&list=WL&index=65&t=257s
Video to disassemble to slide
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=uxpqgwY89fs&list=WL&index=64&t=7s
Can down , sorry just see the reply, it is a old 941F, I bought it used from someone , that was having trouble with it working in single action, couple years ago.
It started out as DA, but now a SA, Surplus , maybe ? I had mags that would not lock in, just has to file a notch in the mag a hair, it would lock, but you had to force it up.
The mags are CZ75, made in Italy, the same ones that Antony had listed at Trade Ex @30.oo Sorry , piss poor quick picture, no flash, in the shop.
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I found the original plastic grips a bit slippery as well so I decided to upgrade. As an interim measure I used good old black hockey tape, an improvement but not perfect. I then ordered a set of Hogue grips (#76000) for the Baby Eagle/Jericho 941. They fit nicely except for the surplus lanyard ring. You can cut the grip to fit around it or replace the pin.
Originally I was going to remove the lanyard ring and replace it with a roll pin but I could not find one to match the hole. Instead I cut a 1/8" drill bit to the width of the grip and beveled the ends a bit with a file. With a bit of lube it slipped in like butter. The only thing you need to watch is the magazine plate spring (it is the large flat spring at the back of the mag well). This pin holds the bottom of of that spring and you don't want to damage it. Just be sure to tap it in gently.
Normally I don't like bubbaing surplus guns but this is a shooter and the grips make a world of difference. Good Luck.
Originally I was going to remove the lanyard ring and replace it with a roll pin but I could not find one to match the hole. Instead I cut a 1/8" drill bit to the width of the grip and beveled the ends a bit with a file. With a bit of lube it slipped in like butter. The only thing you need to watch is the magazine plate spring (it is the large flat spring at the back of the mag well). This pin holds the bottom of of that spring and you don't want to damage it. Just be sure to tap it in gently.
Normally I don't like bubbaing surplus guns but this is a shooter and the grips make a world of difference. Good Luck.
I took it to the range yesterday and it is a treat to shoot. It super accurate. For a full size duty gun it fits my hand quite nice. I can see this becoming my go to range gun. In regards to the grip, I did place some diamond tape (Talon style grip tape) on the front and back straps and it made all the difference. I have zero hand movement now.
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It seems like the Israeli's have tried a lot of different firearms since their formation. I have seen surplus Israeli Jerichos, Berretta, Ruger 22 cal , Tanfoglio and even Glocks. But this 941F is a keeper and a real treat to shoot.
They also used Browning High powers . I remember seeing some for sale on here . beat up pretty bad though . they would be the most reliable in sandy conditions in my opinion .
If anyone is looking for parts for their Jericho 941 F or just need to find a hard to locate part for another firearms try these guys. They ship to Canada but your total purchase has to be under 500.00. I was looking to replace a few springs and roller pins and they have everything.
https://www.gunpartscorp.com/gun-manufacturer/kassnar/auto-pistols-kass/jericho-f-kass
https://www.gunpartscorp.com/gun-manufacturer/kassnar/auto-pistols-kass/jericho-f-kass
Was a fix to a holster issue I read on another forum from an ex IDF member, I don't think it was because of smaller hands. I accidently ordered a plastic frame Jericho holster after I got my 941's and it actually fits perfect with the plastic trigger guard thing. So I think it's pretty plausible. Ended up ordering a proper holster from zahal still.
