Surplus x95 Micro Tavor MSW
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Easiest way to get ahold of one would be to pickup a caliber conversion kit. Fair number of them floating about it seems.
Personally I think they are very interesting collector items and it is extremely rare these days, probably not since the late 80's when the last bunch of FAL from India, that a rather modern system that is directly flowing to the civilian world. Some of them might have seen op protective edge.
Look at some of the models available. these include the early models as well as some later models. IIRC IDF officially transitioned to X95 from TAR21 and M16 around 2011/2012, but they were smaller purchases before. So the oldest ones will be just around 12 years old. In the world of military, it is rarely seen ( actually never ) that a weapon got surplused in just 10 years. They must have brought out the calculator and were offered an irresistible deal. They usually got tossed into the warehouse for another 20 years before they do something about it. Tritium has a half life of 10 years, so that kinda spells out how old these oldest models are. Personally I will not butcher it into NR, but rather have it as a piece of history. You can also kinda ball park the round count on these guns. Even if for some reasons you have to deact it to make the government happy some years down the road, it is still an interesting piece to keep it the way it is.
So it looks to me the IDF is indeed buying M4 for the high ready brigades, but IDF since 2012 also wants to make sure the reservists ( there are 8 years of soldiers who were trained on X95) have the same weapons as their conscription periods. So they would have to buy more new X95 for the reserves to push out any old remaining M16 in the system.
Look at some of the models available. these include the early models as well as some later models. IIRC IDF officially transitioned to X95 from TAR21 and M16 around 2011/2012, but they were smaller purchases before. So the oldest ones will be just around 12 years old. In the world of military, it is rarely seen ( actually never ) that a weapon got surplused in just 10 years. They must have brought out the calculator and were offered an irresistible deal. They usually got tossed into the warehouse for another 20 years before they do something about it. Tritium has a half life of 10 years, so that kinda spells out how old these oldest models are. Personally I will not butcher it into NR, but rather have it as a piece of history. You can also kinda ball park the round count on these guns. Even if for some reasons you have to deact it to make the government happy some years down the road, it is still an interesting piece to keep it the way it is.
So it looks to me the IDF is indeed buying M4 for the high ready brigades, but IDF since 2012 also wants to make sure the reservists ( there are 8 years of soldiers who were trained on X95) have the same weapons as their conscription periods. So they would have to buy more new X95 for the reserves to push out any old remaining M16 in the system.
I reckon these rifles were security company issue as the x95 MSW is police spec and not military issue. They probably didn't see many rounds at all unless they were the rifles used for the rigorous training courses but were definitely carried 24/7 hence the weathering.
The one I attempted to order had a round hand guard but was not as in the photo/description. Missing the covers and the vertical grip. Being cheated on the price is one thing but I would like to receive what is being advertised.
I ended up paying first to get to see pics after of the one I am actually getting. Some that I got to see were beat up. Happy with the one incoming my way
The rifles are a mixed bag. Not all the same. Most retailer descriptions say so. Others do not unfortunately. The more they know about the tavor the more details they'll have.
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Thanks for the photos. Is the piston on your bolt-carrier "nipple" style or flat-head?
Good to see the barrels have space for the charging handle collar if one wanted to switch to the lever style setup down the line.
Definitely looks like it'll be worth giving them a close clean and scrub.
Good to see the barrels have space for the charging handle collar if one wanted to switch to the lever style setup down the line.
Definitely looks like it'll be worth giving them a close clean and scrub.
Certainly has the “used panties” premium. Amazing how the tavor handles the gunk.
I bought from FOC in Ajax. I tried uploading some more pics of the internals and failed. The bolt carrier group is pristine as is the barrel. The trigger pack is very dirty though and surprisingly has a pull of 11lbs like the original tavor.
I'm not yet certain but I think the screws are for accessory rails on each side and the cover which is on both sides is for the PTT for the Mars or Meprolight MOR sight. Same purpose as the hole in the handguard of the original tavor.
That's my own meprolight that I put on. I have so many lol. Only the models with no top rail come with the mepro. Barrel mounted.
I was gonna say. You found a perfect one lol.
Looked today at a store. They had multiple of them. Some are beat up bad. Some sights work. Most scratched.
People ordering online is honestly taking a decent chance until they sell out. Apparently they sold a good amount of them. Already on their second shipment.
Just wondering if this is one of those that orders will keep coming every 4-5 months.
BTW will the 9 mm conversion kit fit and work on this without modification? The store could not answer me this
Looked today at a store. They had multiple of them. Some are beat up bad. Some sights work. Most scratched.
People ordering online is honestly taking a decent chance until they sell out. Apparently they sold a good amount of them. Already on their second shipment.
Just wondering if this is one of those that orders will keep coming every 4-5 months.
BTW will the 9 mm conversion kit fit and work on this without modification? The store could not answer me this
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Yes, they look to have the mag well holes for the 9mm conversion, but I’d want a closer look before I put money on it
