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I admit surprise at the lack of 35 offerings in the current hunting catalogues-the new SIR catalogue only has a couple ,I believe.I didn't even see Remington's ''guide gun'' in 350 magnum in this years catalogue, nor was Rugers 350 in their mk11.Remington did have the 7600 in 35 whelen, but that was about it.Funny,given the fact[according to one gun tech] that the 35 whelen/350 magnum was rated as one of the most efficient cartridges available and would seem ideal for moose/bear.The writer claimed the popular 338's have considerably more recoil, but in practical hunting applications didn't offer that much more than the 350 magnum.If this is correct, It would seems to indicate that marketing accounts for more interest in a particular caliber than practical useage.On the flip side It also may account for why some guys are perfectly content with their 30-30,270,30-06 and 303's.
 
It's simple: Envy leading to resentment leading to discrimination.

Hunters who use .35s are clearly superior to all others in both their knowledge of firearms and their hunting savy. Others resent us for our obvious advantages, and retailers and manufacturers cater to the uninformed masses.

Our day will come. Viva the Revolution! :beerchug: :ar15: :D
 
Ratherbefishing,
.35 calibers are notoriously poor sellers. For better or worse a retailer has to stock what he can move. I remember when Remington legitimized the 35 Whelen in the late eighties. I bought my 7600, then watched as remaining stock got blown out at $350. Dealers have long memories.
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why are the 35's not more popular?The ballistics certainly aren't the problem, and the anecdotal testimonies of experianced hunters don't point to any inherant problems-matter of fact, just the opposite.That Ruger 350 mag in the ''all weather'' version looks a pretty good choice for moose/bear in inclement weather.
 
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they lack the flash and speed required to be a ###y marketing item

gun/hunting magazine ads sell guns, not efficiency
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ratherbefishin said:
why are the 35's not more popular?The ballistics certainly aren't the problem, and the anecdotal testimonies of experianced hunters don't point to any inherant problems-matter of fact, just the opposite.That Ruger 350 mag in the ''all weather'' version looks a pretty good choice for moose/bear in inclement weather.
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Well, gun buyers are a fickle bunch. There's nothing wrong with a lot of calibers that didn't sell, and nothing special about some that do. A few gun enthusiasts don't keep companies afloat, mass marketing requires mass appeal. 35s just don't do well on the North American markets, neither do 8mms, or 6.5 mms. Believe me, if the buyers actually bought them instead of thinking about getting one "Someday" the catalogs and shelves would be full of them.
Dogleg
 
SIR does not list a full inventory of whats really available, go look at wholesalesports online, they have them in the stock, I called.

I guess its to expensive to stock everything if it doesn't move that often.
 
ratherbefishin said:
why are the 35's not more popular?The ballistics certainly aren't the problem, and the anecdotal testimonies of experianced hunters don't point to any inherant problems-matter of fact, just the opposite.
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Many a gun writer has made his Christmas money writing articles where he holds forth on why American hunters don't like 35 calibers. At the same time, the 35 Remington that is an anemic beast, continues to totter along, staying alive.

I do know that those who use 35's, quickly come to like the caliber a whole bunch, and stick with it. I'm one of them.

And now that I see they're making 35 Newton brass again... perhaps I feel a new rifle coming on.
 
I began to be interested in the 35 whelen/350 magnum when I read an article on various cartridges efficiency,and the 35 whelen came in on top.Funny how a 70 year old cartridge designed to kill large game still holds its own against the modern offerings-although I'm not terribly surprised,my 65x55 swede will do its job if I do mine.What impresses me is the accuracy partially resulting from lower recoil-the average guy simply shoots better if he isn't getting his shoulder pounded,and is likely to practice more.
 
I have no shortage of rifles and my Belgium made Browning in 35 Whelen is my all time favorite, both for the rifle and the cartridge. I have a Winchester 94 big bore in 356 which is also high on my list. If I didn't have the morgage from hell, I'd have someone build a 35/338 (not unlike the 358 Norma) out of my belgium browning 338. As it is, I will be more than happy, hunting anything, but mostly moose in grizzly country with my 35 Whelen.
 
I had a 358 Norma built for me 35 years ago and have shot most of my game with it,for larger game moose and bear I think the 35's will do the job nicely.I think Remington should chamber the 358 Norma in next years Classic.:p
 
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I had a 358 Norma built for me 35 years ago and have shot most of my game with it,for larger game moose and bear I think the 35's will do the job nicely.I think Remington should chamber the 358 Norma in next years Classic.:p
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Nah... it should be a rifle from the Scandanavian countries for a Scandanavian cartridge. A Sako or a Tikka, maybe...
 
I have a rem M700, and a Ruger #1 in .35W, and a .356 Win m94. They all kill elk/moose/caribou real well, I'm looking to build another Whelen by re-barreling a Browning FN safari. Kicks less than a .338, kills better than anything else based on a 30-06 case. Same can be said for the .358/356 vs the .308 family.
 
Mmm, I would love to have a Remington Model 141 in .35 Rem, with marbles sights on it.

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I am the proud owner of a M600(the first factory rifle to be chambered in 350)...

The gun is in VERY good condition, when I bought it I only paid $400 bucks. It came with RCBS dies, 50 rounds of ammo, and scoped to boot...:dancingbanana:

It is a very powerful firearm and NOT for the recoil shy.

It will shoot less than 1 inch at 100 yards with max load of 4320 and 250 gr Speer Spitzer.
 
Hey ratherbefishin - you may find this page of interest - http://35cal.com/rep.html

I am the proud owner of a M600(the first factory rifle to be chambered in 350)...
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ditto to that here - luv that little carbine.

Hey 350 mag - How many grains of 4320 do you stuff behind that Speer 250 (hotcore version I presume) for hunting loads for that little maggie of yours? What velocities have you recorded if you have chronographed?
 
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