Surrender or destruction!

John,

Destroying a firearm as you have described is not playing games in my view. Ensuring that it is non-functional and creating the evidence - I would have a notarized witness as well seeing as how things can be photo shopped - while it is still in my possession is protecting myself in the event that the firearm falls into the wrong hands. By turning it in to police, or whatever option is offered to us, there is a small chance that it could go astray and since they are "easily" converted they would be a prime target for theft. If it is somehow traced back to the original owner he or she is in a world of hurt.

I also agree with you about keeping our powder dry and waiting for this to roll out. Mr. Harper was all over the RCMP for the High River Hijack and it really didn't seem to cost him any political capital whatsoever. At some level everyone except the most rabid anti knows that it is wrong to do what we "think" is going to happen; so let's just wait.
 
We should make a list of members with means of helping destroy receivers, i have a chopsaw and torches and live 40 minutes south east of ottawa, and will chop up a receiver in exchange for a tim hortons coffee.

You'll be carting your chop saw all over... Y'know... 'Seeing as no ATT will be issued to transport a Swiss A' .

Id ask for at least that coffee and a bagel.
 
I like the idea of welding a stripped receiver to something large, heavy, and covered in smelly chemicals. If it comes down to that. Make em bring a crane and a HazMat team to come get it.

I might know a welder who'd do that...... ;)
 
I think I know this welder you refer to, and I think I know where he will be monday morning. LOL and can testify that he can do exactly as you have suggested....
 
There are a few threads quoting media reports saying that Blaney signed the order not realizing the scope of what he had done. One report speculated that he had not even read it. Whether this is fact or fiction I don't know. However, it would seem reasonable to me that a change of such magnitude would need a government signature.

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What I always thought and never said.
As Willy Shakeyspeare would say, "There's something rotten in the state of Denmark"
If I was a wee tiny mouse and could sneak into RCMP file cabinets how many of the previous ban orders would have "mistaken" Ministerial signatures on them?
Did Blaney let the cat out of the bag and then try to back peddle?
 
Does anyone how to remove a barrel on a swiss arms upper?

It can be tricky to do without damaging the receiver but if you don't care about the receiver just put it in a bench vise (clamping on the trunnion) and use a big wrench with an extension arm to unthread the barrel. A little heat on the trunnion can help but only a little. If you want to save the receiver you will need to make up some sort of trunnion block/receiver protector. I used a cut length of grade 8 bolt and some aluminum to support and protect the receiver at the trunnion when I changed the barrel on my old PE90. Do not put any clamping force on the receiver body, only the trunnion.
 
I had this idea almost immediately after hearing the news.
I thought they had declared it a variety of a named prohib;
Thus anything like an upper that will fit it is also a variant.

Isn't that about it?
 
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If and when disassembly possibly comes on the radar could a technically inclined person take some very accurate measurements and possibly draw the receiver in autocad for export to CNC or a 3D printer ?
 
John, could you make the receiver so that it accepts the 10 round xcr 7.62x39 pistol mag? Let's make our new 858s able to shoot 10 rounds regally. That would be such a good foch yiu at the RCMP.
 
I picked up the .22 conversion and got it working very well. Now the top bra**holes at the rcmp are taking away my fun.
 
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