I used to have to go out find and reestablish old survey grids for mineral exploration, you kind of expected to get lost a fair bit, but you stayed within a certain geograhpical area and always had a set time to make camp before dark, this was in the days before GPS.
Survivorman - Deep Woods (2008)
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Yes, I've noticed that as well, some of the things he does are quite contrary to what I've learned about survival. That being said, he has done a few things that I found interesting, like when he started a fire with a battery, some steel wool, and some gasoline after a simulated plane crash......then again if you're flying in a remote area without so much as a good way to start a fire in your survival kit then you've already made some big mistakes.
Along similar lines, I recently watched the Discovery Channel series Out of the Wild: The Alaska Experiment, and I found that to be quite interesting. Lots of survival type hunting in that series. There was one time when they ran into a black bear but did not have a rifle big enough to shoot it (they just had a 410 shotgun with bird-shot and .22 combo gun) so they had to subsist on birds and rodents. Later on they "found (ie: it was given to them)" a hunting rifle. A hunting guide even came by a few times to take them on a black bear hunt and they had no luck. Eventually they ended up leaving the hunting rifle at one of their shelters because they did not want to carry it.
It was quite an interesting story of subsistence hunting in a survival situation by people who had very little experience with that sort of thing. They were hungry and cold most of the time.
I hope you guys realize that Bear's show is staged while Survivorman is quite real. I've seen all Survivorman episodes and have no idea what people are talking about when they say he doesn't hunt or fish. Sometimes there just aren't opportunities and/or he has no means to do so. This just means that the scenario is realistic. Not everyone carries a gun or fishing rod with them going for a plane ride, or dirt biking.
Les is also an off-the-grid type who has a like-minded family. He has a couple of documentaries out, one of his honeymoon living primitively with his wife, away from civilization, and the other how they built their off the grid home in Ontario. Give him more credit please, and don't compare him to that joke ass-clown Bear.
Les is also an off-the-grid type who has a like-minded family. He has a couple of documentaries out, one of his honeymoon living primitively with his wife, away from civilization, and the other how they built their off the grid home in Ontario. Give him more credit please, and don't compare him to that joke ass-clown Bear.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBmhNA7JME4
Yup. Lots of proof that Bear's shows are totally staged. He is hardcore though, after all, he climbed Everest.
+ 1
I am thinking in particular of a show where he was camped on the beach and trying to catch fish with a piece of rope as I recall and possibly trying to trap them with a piece of wash up trawl mesh. (can't remember exactly) What I do remember was him trying to catch fish in very shallow water along the shore. I think the odds of a fish actually coming into that location was just about zero plus the size of his "fishing line" in the vicinity of the hook was massive for anything short of a whale.
I also think there have been a number of times where he could have set snares or deadfalls for small animals and chose not to. One show in the arctic, he carried a rifle for bear protection but as I recall it was a pretty small caliber and not very suitable for protection against polar bears.
It is not that I think he would shoot an animal if he absolutely had to but rather in most shows he just does not seem to have any experience at having done so in the past for food.
cheers mooncoon
MudChucker
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Sure, we know Bears show is... so what?
Your comments about Bear are undeserved, just because you have a hard-on for Les. They don't make out any great pretense on Bears show. Jeepers.
Les is days away from dead just about every episode, if you call that 'surviving' then good for you, I hope he has taught you alot.
P.S. I like Bears show and used to like Les before he turned up the campy bulls**t notch.
Back to main topic... The guy in question was not thinking and now is dead, damn shame.
didnt you say 'Dude, Bear s**ts guys like Les'...?
not really, his show is staged and phony. the guy is basically a fictional character at this point.
Bear Gryls is an actor, Les Shroud is a danger to himself (and anyone silly enough to emulate him), but Ray Mears, there's a guy who goes out to the woods and has a grand old time. If you're going to watch survival type stuff on TV, Ray is the guy to tune in to.
Observe as he busts a cap in a deer and eats it's liver.
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Observe as he busts a cap in a deer and eats it's liver.
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pretty hard core when bear snared that reindeer killed in with a knife by striking the spine, then lost most of it some time later when he fell through the ice on a frozen creek.
jumped on a wild boar, and knifed it... eats dead animals he finds along the way... etc, i find him somewhat extreme.
les is basic but i like watching survivorman non the less (no pun intended)
jumped on a wild boar, and knifed it... eats dead animals he finds along the way... etc, i find him somewhat extreme.
les is basic but i like watching survivorman non the less (no pun intended)
Yes, yes I did. Bear would literaly choke the life out of Les and eat him.... eventually Les would make it out as a steamy pile of Sh*t.
I second Exocet and his Ray Mears entry.
Hokus Grey
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ABou the only thing I ever learned from "Survivorman", was that you have to cook bugs you find in the bush very well, as they may contain tapeworm, or other nasty sh*t. Good to know, but that's about it.
darkshadow
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Yes, yes I did. Bear would literaly choke the life out of Les and eat him.... eventually Les would make it out as a steamy pile of Sh*t.
I second Exocet and his Ray Mears entry.
But only if they trucked Les in a tied him to a stake for Bear to 'hunt' him like the bunny, maybe after he ropes a 'wild' horse, you know the wild ones with horse shoes
I watch them all but Had not heard of Rob Bredl, I will have to look him up.
Ray is the sh!t a real world historical survivor,with the knowledge of working bushcraft and the guy I would want to be stranded with.
Les comes at things from a real world approach, taking on the role of the 'average' guy might find or PUT himself in.
Bear is just dumb, but worth watching. If anyone tried the stuff he dose with out the full support team in the RV that follow him and going back to the bed and breakfast for blueberry pancakes....they would be long dead.
Bear Grylis- I like watching him for the “lets climb down this cliff and go over there” stuff.
He does some things I wouldn’t dream of trying on a dare or a survival situation.
Ray Mears- You can tell he’s very comfortable in the bush, a natural at it.
Les Hiddens- bushtucker man, my favorite, I really enjoyed his shows about survival in Australia.
Les Stroud- starving man, example of a citytard that should stay home.
He doesn’t even seem to understand that when making a spear you should find a straight stick.
He does some things I wouldn’t dream of trying on a dare or a survival situation.
Ray Mears- You can tell he’s very comfortable in the bush, a natural at it.
Les Hiddens- bushtucker man, my favorite, I really enjoyed his shows about survival in Australia.
Les Stroud- starving man, example of a citytard that should stay home.
He doesn’t even seem to understand that when making a spear you should find a straight stick.
I think you're missing the point of Les' show. He doesn't show how to survive indeffinitely in the wild, just how to survive until rescue gets to you. Very applicable to hikers, hunters, adventure racers, dirt bikers, etc. I don't particularly watch his show for survival info since I get that from a much better source. I watch it for infotainment value and I appreciate it that he doesn't pretend to be something he's not.
Bear is a little bit above in entertainment than Survivor and we all know how much survival they do on that show. If you like that kinda stuff, good on you. It just gives me a weird feeling in my stomach, close to nausea, when I see the stupid #### he does. Bird #### enema comes to mind.
