SVT-40 scope mount for $350? Group Buy!

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Hi,

I spent countless time to find a reasonably prices SVT-40 mount and I've got nothing... I know that I can buy original scope and mount for $850, but I simply cannot afford it.

So, I spoke to one company and they told me that I can put an order and manufacture at least 20, getting them at $350 a piece. However, if I get only one done, it would cost me 3 times more than original...

The mount will be exact copy of WWII mount dated 1941 (I have a friend from who I can borrow it). So it would be a proper W.W.II Russian design, and they would look and function just like the old ones from the 1941.

Therefore I wonder, is OK to made some sort of group buy here? If it makes me a dealer, I don't mind to contribute to CGN at the end of the buy. On the other hand would somebody be interested in that?

Cheers. :cheers:
 
Any group buys need to be approved by Greentips. PM him for approval. You don't necessarily have to become a supporting dealer.

I'll lock this for the time being, let me know when/if you get the go-ahead.
 
Have a green light to go from administration.

However, I'm bearing any financial responsibilities in regards to this "project" and any legal/financial problems are not CGN problem. In addition, if you want to participate, your participation is releasing CGN from any potential liabilities.

So, anybody interested? Any thoughts or questions?
 
In general the scope with 1" tube should fit. However, it's hard to put regular Mosin PU scope on it, as it requires special cut. It goes on mosing base by fixing only on front part that is 1", the back tube of the PU is 1.1" or so. Originally it was 1" and back part had a special cut (just milled on the scope) to reduce it to 1" too. After USSR stoped making sniper SVT-40, they stoped making that cut as everything went on Mosin-Nagant rifle (the cut doesn't effect it at all). I'll put a picture when I get home.

So, I'm thinking about getting scopes with the cut and they should be around $100. By the time we can get everything together, I might have a ready to go package.
 
Coyote Ugly said:
Rather than re-invent the wheel and have them made, the SVT mounts you are looking for already exist!
$195 Each, 3 for $495; Sarco in NJ (sarcoinc.com)

http://www.sarcoinc.com/feat47.html

http://www.sarcoinc.com/tok3840.htm
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Cool! That's a good option too. Thanks for finding this.

Now, $195 american is about $234 canadian. Questar would charge something like $100 each to import it + $14 GST and $18 PST (if you're in Ontario like me). Barrels, optics, bases and anything over $100 would require an export permit from US, so they wouldn't ship it to us.

Can somebody start a project and import them to Canada? It will save lots of troubles for me and would keep people happy.
 
Coyote Ugly said:
A PU scope is not correct in a SVT Mount, use a SVT scope.
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PU scope was designed for SVT-40, but the current production lacks extra step (the back of the scope should be milled down to 1"). It doesn't effect it when you put it on mosin as both rings go to the front part which is already 1".

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SVT-40 need back and front milled to 1" (special path must be cut to 1" to accomodate the back ring):
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You can see that cut here:
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So, internally all PU scopes are the same, Mosin PU is just don't have a cut, but technically it can be done.
 
If your supplier can manufacture the exact replica, what prevents them from making a really good mount, that will not be as wobbly as original? You are not creating value by copying the original, it's still a replica, so why following a flawed design anyway?

I'd rather spent money on a design that is rigid enough, can carry a modern scope and allows to use the iron sights.

Whadayathink?
 
svt-40 said:
If your supplier can manufacture the exact replica, what prevents them from making a really good mount, that will not be as wobbly as original? You are not creating value by copying the original, it's still a replica, so why following a flawed design anyway?

I'd rather spent money on a design that is rigid enough, can carry a modern scope and allows to use the iron sights.

Whadayathink?
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I'm discussing this posibility with one well-known manufacturer. If they finally deside to move their asses, we can get a new design - new production base for about $100-$120 if not cheaper.

However, it could be nice to have a real looking base too and some people would like to have too, I think, e.g. reenactment.

However, I think I'd go with Coyote Ugly's idea. I'll contact Sarco, find a dealer to export it to Canada, e.g. Questar and get it there. It will cost the same $350 after fees, exchange rates, taxes, and shipping, but I don't have to go for a "number" here. I can get from 3 to whatever I need right away (unless US defence department screw me over again :mad: )
 
I bet you will be denied, like I was, because this is for a 'military firearm' and does not serve a 'legitimate purpose'. But I wish you luck!
 
guess_kto said:
Cool! That's a good option too. Thanks for finding this.

Now, $195 american is about $234 canadian. Questar would charge something like $100 each to import it + $14 GST and $18 PST (if you're in Ontario like me). Barrels, optics, bases and anything over $100 would require an export permit from US, so they wouldn't ship it to us.

Can somebody start a project and import them to Canada? It will save lots of troubles for me and would keep people happy.
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Getting things like this sent from the US is not a problem, just get them shipped to a US address and have them forwarded on from there. I have done this many times. State the value at whatever you like.
 
guess_kto said:
The last time I checked it was otherwise, can you prove your point? :onCrack:
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I am surprised you were able to check that, nobody that I have ever asked knew what an optical alignment aid was. Prove what exactly ? :confused:
 
You might want to check with Sarco and email the International Shipments as I think they do the paperwork/broker/expedite for Export.

http://www.sarcoinc.com/order1.html

IMPORT/EXPORT, INTERNATIONAL ORDERS & CONCERNS & DEALS
If you are ordering from outside the United States, have import/export questions or concerns, or have any deals you would like to offer, you can contact Mike D.

Mike D -
Tel: (908) 647-3800 ext. 115
Fax: (908) 647-3846
international@sarcoinc.com
 
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Each time I tried to buy a base from US, the dealer checked the rules and the answer was "No, get an exporter". Some got around and shipped from other country than US, some just send it without checking. However, MidwayUSA did it once, got in troubles, so they don't ship anything to Canada anymore. I asked my FFL dealer and the answer was "need a license". Perhaps you can get somebody (e.g. desperate individual) to cheat the system with "optical alignment aid", but a good business wouldn't risk just for couple dollars from some dude in Canada. Even good eBayers wouldn't do it.
 
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