SVT-40 value thoughts

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I always browse the EE just to what is happening, and have noticed many SVT-40's listed with most likely not selling for less then what they were paid for.. It seems like the price is going down on these.. is this just a case of too many on the market right now?
 
Considering the sale at Lever Arms for $199 before Christmas, I think there may be many reluctant buyers that are hoping this kind of pricing returns.

It's the old supply and demand rule popping up again. Look no further than the recent price crash of Mosin Nagant m38/44's - supply up, demand down = Prices go down. Demand up, supply down = Prices go up. Add in further rumours and speculation from dealers/ forum banter etc. and you have the milsurp prices that the market sees.
 
midnightpossum said:
I always browse the EE just to what is happening, and have noticed many SVT-40's listed with most likely not selling for less then what they were paid for.. It seems like the price is going down on these.. is this just a case of too many on the market right now?
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I bet it was from Lever Arms big christmas sale, they sold a ton of SVT's for like $200 or $250 (i can't remember the exact price) and flooded the market with them. I have also seen many of them cropping up at Canadian Tires around here for a lower price than i have seen within the past few years.
 
I bought one a couple years ago from P&S for 400$. Do I regret it, not really as frankly they are nice guns. Is it what its worth now, definitely not. Just means I have to hold on to it which since I enjoy it isn't a problem (maybe in 5 or 10 years it will be worth more). The market is heavily saturated at the moment (at the local CT I was offered one for 300$ still in the cosmoline and I could pick out of a good 15 or so of them). Personally I would rather buy one from a store in the cosmoline than from someone else as you don't know how well they have maintained it (did they shoot corrosive ammo through it, did they clean it properly etc.).
 
I bought mine from TSE last year for $325.. and I do like it as well, and will hang on to it.. What I find funny.. is how rare these where considered a few years back.. and now the market is so flooded that you would have to almost give it away if you need to make room for a new toy.
 
I bought mine because I liked it! The look/history/price etc. not to resell! Look at the old enfields, sold cheap and if you waited 40-50 years you could sell it for $800-$1500. That's 40-50 years not months and that's if people still want them in 40-50 years! Buy them because you want them and you will not be disappointed! By the way,I gave mine to my son when he got his PAL,, so now waiting for the next sale!! ;0)
 
With .308 @ 0.50; .223 @ 0.37 (reloads)and 7.62x54 at ~0.25(milsurp.) it adds up. Like a lot of things, its not the purchase price, it's the operating costs.

Everybody likes a bargain but at the end of the day the price differences are pretty small.

How much is your 3 year old cell phone, TV, computer, worth? Nobody is leaving their cell phone to their favorite nephew.
 
marc_j said:
With .308 @ 0.50; .223 @ 0.37 (reloads)and 7.62x54 at ~0.25(milsurp.) it adds up. Like a lot of things, its not the purchase price, it's the operating costs.

Everybody likes a bargain but at the end of the day the price differences are pretty small.

How much is your 3 year old cell phone, TV, computer, worth? Nobody is leaving their cell phone to their favorite nephew.
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Well said and that is where the value is, not so much how much you can sell it for and the profit!
We are getting these rifles for a bargain for sure, old world craftsmanship and quality at discount prices!
OP , take advantage of the deals available now and enjoy what you have!
 
They're still kind of an unknown as far as collecting goes- no english language books, etc. How much are Podolsk's worth compared to Tulas? Are these refurbs even worth collecting? It's going to take a while for the market place to equilibrate and for the really valuable ones to become known. Meanwhile, I bought one of those $200.00 Lever guns- was going to strip it as a parts gun but when I received it I found it was a nice one with minimal stock repairs and a good bore so it stayed in one piece! I've also bought a couple of former snipers and they're going to be staying in the safe for a long time.

Milsurpo
 
Bought mine off the Lever xMas sale, and couldn't be happier with it. Once I got it out shooting this spring, it immediately turned my SKS, M38, and 91/30 into safe queens. More accurate than all three others.

I look at it this way: What else can you get in a .308/30-06 (roughly, let the calibre argument begin) semi-auto that's even remotely close to this price? Answer: Abso-freaking-lutely nothing.

Not to mention, what can you shoot in that power ranger for ~ $0.25/shot? Again, Abso-freaking-lutely nothing. It would be a challenge to even reload .308 for that price.

And if you poke around, you can get the MFS hunting loads for ~ $0.75/shot, which is still pretty heavy on the bargain side.

Add to all that, the interesting history of the rifle? At this price point, for this rifle, it's a great time to be Canadian. Look at the price they go for in the US because of the import ban.

Canada is one of the last Western nations that will:

A) buy these things from the former East Block (no import bans)
B) actually has a market for them, and they're legal for civilian use/ownership (Sorry Australia, the UK, most of Western Europe)
C) pay more than just shipping and scrap metal price for them (think Africa - where old surps go to die).

As a result, we're getting flooded with them, along with the Mosins and SKS's (in spite of the WestRifle panic and Marstar ball dropping, SKS's can still be easily found for < $200 ).

So, in short, yes. It's a supply and demand thing. Canada is getting all the supply, essentially has a lock on demand (thanks to other countries having silly import laws or generally even worse gun control laws), and there are still untold hundreds of thousands of them sitting in warehouses in the former Warsaw pact.

Buy one to shoot, one to store, and another just 'cause.

The price might drop a bit more, but not much. Eventually, the supply will start to dry up, and by then the Bubbas will have f#cked over more than half the ones in the county. 49 year turnaround for a profit? Not likely, 15-20 year and you'll be in good shape, so long as you take care of it or keep it in the cosmo.
 
grelmar said:
Buy one to shoot, one to store, and another just 'cause.

The price might drop a bit more, but not much. Eventually, the supply will start to dry up, and by then the Bubbas will have f#cked over more than half the ones in the county. 49 year turnaround for a profit? Not likely, 15-20 year and you'll be in good shape, so long as you take care of it or keep it in the cosmo.
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I could not agree more.
 
Be careful the former snipers don't have freshly cut dovetails.As for Lever when the sale was on they hung up on my buddy 1/2 way through processing his order for 6 rifles on the last day as the store was closing! Not a good way to conduct business.Nor did they honor anything the following day when the manager was called.........Harold
 
mbogo3: Yeah, I studied up good and know exactly what the real notch looks like plus mine were already on Ratniks list of snipers. I saw some doozies at the recent calgary show, however!

Milsurpo
 
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